Comments Thread For: Jermall Charlo: Of Course I Wanna Fight Canelo, Golovkin

[Sledgeweather17]

he says he is his own promoter but doesn't pick his opponents. and he been stagnating for a while now. maybe get a new promoter. hearn, lou, gbp, arum all have better opponents to offer than hogan and rolls.

The dude is lying. David Benevides called him out recently and there is a YouTube video of him looking like he wants to punch the interviewer in the mouth for asking him about Benevides.

Interviewer: "I think it would be a great, legacy building fight that would benefit both you and Benevides"

Charlo: "Yeah it would be a good fight for THEM"

Interviewer: "Nah for both of you. Your name and status would grow if you fought and beat Benevides"

Charlo: "Yeah well I don't see it that way."

All the while Charlo mean mugging the interviewer and looking like he just wants to punch the onterviewer I the face and run away from the interview.

PS. Derevyanchenko called him out too, no response from Charlo though.

[Thuglife Nelo]

And you overlook the fact Andrade ducked Jermell a second time.

Andrade was Jermell's mandatory for the wbc and left the mandatory spot to fight Culcay for the REGULAR WBA title.

In boxing, if a guy ducks, and the the boxer wants it known that he ducked, and if two brothers knew about that, then they wouldn’t act naive as to whom Andrade is...LMAO

As if Jermall wouldn’t defend himself or his brother for these supposed duck theories and instead say “I’m not a Matchroom...”

Wise up mate! Critical thinking is key

[Sledgeweather17]

This whole past tense ducking is ****** mate. These guys aren’t retired, and yet again, you too dismiss like J.Razor that Ronnie Shields said the reason the fight didn’t happen was because of Andrade’s mgmt. Why would Shield’s do Andrade a favor by saying that? It makes no sense other than a man preferring to tell the truth.

Again, Andrade has the 160 WBO. Jermall says Andrade does nothing for him... as in Unification and redemption means nothing.

Ronnie Shields and Jermell had public beef with each other, that's why Mell left Ronnie Shields and went to Derick James. So I wouldn't take anything Ronnie Shields say seriously.

But assuming your excuse is acceptable, what's your excuse for the second duck?

Andrade was mandatory for Charlo's wbc and chose to leave his mandatory spot to fight Culcay for the REGULAR WBA.

What's the excuse for that?

Oh and did I mention that he was asked about that by the media, they asked him why he fight Culcay for the regular instead of Lara for the Super, and guess what he said?

"Lara is boring, I would only fight him as a last resort. I'm looking forward to the Culcay fight though."


Can't make this shieet up, smh!

[Sledgeweather17]

In boxing, if a guy ducks, and the the boxer wants it known that he ducked, and if two brothers knew about that, then they wouldn’t act naive as to whom Andrade is...LMAO

As if Jermall wouldn’t defend himself or his brother for these supposed duck theories and instead say “I’m not a Matchroom...”

Wise up mate! Critical thinking is key

Then I will give you the irrefutable proof like I gave the other Andrade delusional fanboy out here, actually I'll just copy paste the post. Hold on.

[Sledgeweather17]

In boxing, if a guy ducks, and the the boxer wants it known that he ducked, and if two brothers knew about that, then they wouldn’t act naive as to whom Andrade is...LMAO

As if Jermall wouldn’t defend himself or his brother for these supposed duck theories and instead say “I’m not a Matchroom...”

Wise up mate! Critical thinking is key

Okay I found the post. Ama paste it for you, it's got all the links too. Here goes...

Below is proof that Andrade pulled out of a fight with Jermell Charlo in 2014. I've copied the paragraph and provided the link.


The 29-year-old was slated to fight Jermell Charlo in December 2014, but withdrew after a dalliance with Roc Nation Sports. Andrade (24-0, 16 KOs) never signed with the company, though, and the legal battle that followed damaged his relationship with Al Haymon, who controls most of the top fighters at 154 pounds.

https://www.******.com/518589-demetr...ez-fox-oct-21/

Below is a copy of the article where it is clearly explained that Andrade will get a guarenteed shot at Jermell Charlo as his second mandatory. Below the quote is the link if you want to read it yourself. This is the second time Andrade pulled out of a fight with Charlo.

Andrade-Nelson is a 12-round WBC title elimination fight to determine the second mandatory challenger for new WBC Super Welterweight Champion Jermell Charlo, who, as the WBC No. 1 contender was matched last May 21 with No. 2 rated John Jackson. No. 3 Andrade was originally slated to face No. 5 Charles Hatley in a title eliminator to determine the No. 1 mandatory contender. However, negotiations with Hatley’s promoter, Don King, failed to materialize and Andrade moved on to fight WBC No. 10 Nelson. The WBC declared Hatley as Charlo’s mandatory challenger, despite him being ranked lower than Andrade, with the Andrade-Nelson winner now declared the mandatory title challenger for the future Charlo-Hatley victor.

Andrade, though, has no hard feelings with the WBC about its decisions. “I’m just thankful to be fighting in this ‘tournament’,” he commented. “Charlo was the WBC International champion and he should have had the opportunity to fight for the vacant title. I have the WBO International title, Hatley the WBC Silver title, so Hatley should probably have been ranked higher than me by the WBC. I respect the WBC’s decision to make him the first mandatory challenger.”

https://www.google.co.tz/amp/s/www.*...ey-winner/amp/

Below is a link to the article of the interview where Andrade blatantly admits he would only fight Lara, the super champ, as a last resort while declaring his intention to fight Culcay, the regular champ. Remember that fighting for the WBA title disqualifies him as Charlo's mandatory, whereas in the above link it was made clear that Andrade was Charlo's second mandatory. Thus, the second duck of Jermell, whilst simultaneously ducking Lara, for the second time.

https://www.boxingscene.com/demetriu...culcay--106350

Below is Demetrius Andrade the duck being exposed by Derevyanchenko after moving up to Middleweight. Provided the link too for you fanboy arse.

"I was very disappointed when the Demetrius Andrade fight fell apart for December 16, because I had the same amount of time to get ready as he did and I accepted all the terms because I am a fighter and I'm willing to fight anybody, anytime, anywhere,” Derevyanchenko told me through an interpreter, for BoxingScene.com.

"We will see in the next month or so if we can remake the fight for sometime in the first few months of the year and we will see if Demetrius will really fight me or if he is scared!”

And if the 25-0 Rhode Islander Andrade wants to opt for another challenge?

“If he does not want to fight me I will depend on my two managers, Keith Connolly and Al Haymon and my promoter Lou DiBella to secure the best opportunity out there for me. I am expecting 2018 to be my big year in boxing," Derevyanchenko said.

https://www.boxingscene.com/derevyan...scared--123707

https://www.boxingscene.com/derevyan...l-1216--122903

Eat some all of this truth and then take some time to reflect and choose a more couragious hero, because Andrade is nothing but a fraud.

Always has an excuse to pull out of fights. In all of these fights not happening, there is only one common denominator....

Andrade walking away from big fights.

Nobody vacated their titles, nobody dumped their belts, Andrade walked away.

There are so many excuses you can give a guy.

Oh and did I mention that when he moved up to Middleweight, it was because he was ducking Lara? Sounds absurd right?

Well let me tell you. Andrade announced his move up to Middleweight literally two weeks after the WBA declared that they would be ordering negotiations between Lara and Andrade to begin the following month.

Lol, so he ducked two guaranteed mandatory shots, one at Lara, and one at Charlo. Can't make this shieet up.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Ronnie Shields and Jermell had public beef with each other, that's why Mell left Ronnie Shields and went to Derick James. So I wouldn't take anything Ronnie Shields say seriously.

But assuming your excuse is acceptable, what's your excuse for the second duck?

Andrade was mandatory for Charlo's wbc and chose to leave his mandatory spot to fight Culcay for the REGULAR WBA.

What's the excuse for that?

Oh and did I mention that he was asked about that by the media, they asked him why he fight Culcay for the regular instead of Lara for the Super, and guess what he said?

"Lara is boring, I would only fight him as a last resort. I'm looking forward to the Culcay fight though."


Can't make this shieet up, smh!

You should know boxing.

If you know all about Andrade’s history and these fights, disclose the purses and offers for all mentioned. Andrade was a legit Champion before at 154 before Lara. Andrade BEAT Vanes in which Lara DRAW. Andrade his whole career has always been complaining about purses. He has every right to given these circumstances and guess what, he’s still undefeated, so you gotta give him benefit of doubt for what he SHOULD BE making as a PREMIER Main card, and former Champion.

Lara was elevated Super Champion when Floyd retired. What was offered Andrade to fight Lara? If Lara got a bigger split in those negotiations it’s not surprising that Andrade wouldn’t take it. What’s even more realistic is that Culcay is a nightmare for most boxers, so if his pay wasn’t significantly different than what was offered for the Lara fight then he could fight Culcay as still the A side.

I don’t even follow what Lara’s highest paydays have been with Showtime or what Andrade COULDVE OR WOULDVE recieved. Wasn’t Andrade with PBC before going to Hearn?

[wrecksracer]

Like Crawford, everybody in the division is with a different promoter. It's the reality of boxing these days. Take a page out of Pac's book and go where the competition is.

[PBR Streetgang]

All this talk about who ducked who way back when. There are alot of factors why a fight doesn't get made but at the end of the day, if a fighter really wants to make fights he can pretty much do it. All I have to do is look at Andrade and Charlo on boxrec and see the absence of big names on their resumes. I look at Jacobs or I look at Derevyanchenko and I see some big names. Jacobs has Pirog, Golovkin, Canelo and Derevy. I look at Sergei and he has GGG and Jacobs with about a dozen total fights. He would have fought Canelo if he could have. Some dudes seem to make it happen and some dudes always seem to have an excuse. Not all of it may be on them but you have to ask yourself, how bad did they really want to make that fight?

[jackblack008]

So Charlon and Andrade keep sulking and crying but wont fight each other.. well played.

[factsarenice]

Hearn offered to let Charlo stay with Al Haymon and fight for life time high pay on Matchroom . Charlo doesn't have a contract with either Showtime or Fox so Charlo is free to fight on any network.

I don't understand why would anyone turn down such a clear no lose opportunity?

Objectively looking at this, if the network, money and loyalty to Al Haymon aren't the problem the only reasonable conclusion is the level of competition....no?