Are The Women In Boxing ******? WHY DO THEY THINK THEY SHOULD GET EVEN PAY?

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

Illegal immigrants think they should get free healthcare and education so I don't see the problem , it's 2019 brah. Free money for everyone, paid for by nobody because money is free .

You sound sexist/misogynistic AF brah, uneducated silly person is what you are. Jealous of women brah? Incel? Why you care how much women are paid brah? What have you accomplished? Equal pay for equal work brah, it's 2019, get with the times. You don't have to like it, but you WILL accept it. Deal with it. Yeah. I sure told you.

The capital letters in the thread title, really helped convey your very well established argument. Speaking for all women at once, is like me saying every Ruiz Jnr fan is a biggot, based on 1 forum thread I read.

Maybe some women have demanded equal pay, but maybe the vast majority just want equal opportunity to entertain and be paid in accordance to how many tickets they are selling.

And who would be withholding that from them ****wit?

No one cares about women boxing, I'm sure they're paid accordingly.

The ****e girls can fill Wembley they get paid accordingly irrespective of their sex. can katie Taylor or claressa shields do 80000 at Wembley like froch groves? Serena Williams is rich af more so than tim henman I'm sure, she has been paid her worth as a star. Capitalist society/an open market isn't sexist or racist or discriminatory at all, it's all about the coin.
Katie Taylor is about to main event/headlineI'm sure she'll get paid what she deserves. I'm sure mtk wouldn't let her take less that her worth. I'm sure she also gets paid a lot more than lots of men. Where is the sexism. Elaborate . That's a very vague comment from you old dear

Crys for equal opportunity is more feminist spiel, they get the opportunity and nothing changes. We live in an open society this isn't Saudi. We live in a greedy society if there was money to be made off these women I'm sure it would be seen as a valuable market to tap in to. Hearn and others have tried desperately to shove women's boxing down our throats. They'd love it to take off and cash in. No one is purposely holding women down in 2019. It's a load of bs. Just nobody wants to watch that ****e. The talent pool is shallow, it looks distasteful to many, the talent level is low in comparison to men's. It's just not for most men.

.......wow. But what for?

OK. For one it'd probably be helpful if you linked to where you saw a chick demanding equal pay in boxing. All you've posted here is a quote from Lou, who despite the ambiguous name is still a man I think - and one who has a lot more experience in the business of boxing than you do. And what Lou is suggesting is there is a massive gap in the market for womens boxing and that if it's tapped it could drive up the pay for female boxing stars. If they're right in their assessment it also does make sense to treat a few female stars as loss leaders, firstly to draw more women to boxing (which I think is only a good thing) and secondly raise the profile of the women who already do box.

Lemme ask you man, if boxing gets made illegal, do you think women or men will be the driving force behind that? If kids don't go into boxing will it be because of the mums or cos of the dads? You better believe that if we want the sport to thrive we should get the women on side and getting women fighting and watching the fights is a big step in that direction.

Now I've focused on the pragmatic here, cos my spidey senses are telling me that a moral and ethical argument would be a waste of time on a dude who calls women ****** for asking for better pay, but I gotta ask - just in principle here, not as it relates to boxing - do you not believe in equal pay for equal work?

I think you misunderstood my point, or perhaps I didn't make it clear. I wasn't advoating for more or less womens boxing, I wasn't exclaiming how they're being held back or encouraged or otherwise. I was pointing out that making such generalized statements is just a ****** thing to do, regardless of the topic. Women want equal opportunity, as do men.

Women are finding their way onto cards now and their industry is growing - however the facts are the facts, we haven't been as entertained yet. Fair! But that's not to say they are incapable or ineligible - rhonda proved women can entertain like heck in combat sports. It just takes time and exposure, that's all the majority are asking for. As the exposure grows, so does the pool of fighters taking up the sport, therefore your talent and entertainment will likely increase with it. Women's boxing needs a 1 punch knockout power star to emerge and people will watch, just as they do in UFC. What is entirely unhelpful? Posts like the OP, screaming and calling people ******

I agree that as women's boxing starts to become more popular the gap should reduce. However, these sort of things don't just happen overnight, and it's not like gender is the only form of pay gap in boxing - the gulf between the stars of the sport who make mega millions for every fight and the lower end fighters who have to sell tickets and barely make enough to get by is even more extreme. It all just boils down to what delivers the best value for the fans and ergo what makes more money for the promoters - and let's be real, the current top level of women's boxing is only a fraction as good in terms of spectacle and the talent on display as men's boxing right now. Hopefully having more talented women coming through the amateurs and olympics will broaden the pool of fighting talent, and perhaps they should consider having three minute rounds to make it seem less like women's boxing is a toned-down version of the mens' contest.

womans never should box to begin with

https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/womens-boxing-making-strides-ahead-of-heather-hardy-vs-amanda-serrano-but-its-time-to-knock-the-*****-door-down/1bvb64mhvmfcd1mep39n47wkkt

[Citizen Koba]

https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxi...d1mep39n47wkkt

Yeah. You didn't actually read the article did you? You got Lou specifically saying women will probably never get as much as men, you got Amanda saying it'd be good to get a 'bit' more, but nothing even close to any woman demanding they should get the same pay as men.

Regardless, I still stand by my earlier post, I think we should be actively trying to get girls and women involved in the sport.

Chick hate click bait, man.

[Rip Chudd]

Illegal immigrants think they should get free healthcare and education so I don't see the problem , it's 2019 brah. Free money for everyone, paid for by nobody because money is free .

You sound sexist/misogynistic AF brah, uneducated silly person is what you are. Jealous of women brah? Incel? Why you care how much women are paid brah? What have you accomplished? Equal pay for equal work brah, it's 2019, get with the times. You don't have to like it, but you WILL accept it. Deal with it. Yeah. I sure told you.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

lmfao theirs always a few trying to push them buttons but in real life you and i know how they be.

[_Rexy_]

I've never seen any female fighter asking for equal money. They're too busy fighting to get 3 minute rounds.

['b']

lmfao theirs always a few trying to push them buttons but in real life you and i know how they be.

Yep, they be having bid d1cks and exercising, saving money and just being a badass in general. Yep.

[Marchegiano]

Oh man, this could have been interesting...

Anyway, here's me with a little background on female boxing

The history of female combative sports goes far back into centuries, although not too many historical documents remain. In the past, women were extremely rare guests in unarmed combative activities which were considered as exceptionally men’s. However, in some places and at some epochs, female combative sports were relatively popular for those patriarchal times. Legendary ancient Spartan women, Andean indigenous women in South America, Polynesian women and British women in the 18-19 centuries can be recalled as good examples.

The first evidence of female hand-to-hand combatants has come to us from the Greek mythology. Women in many ancient Greek city-states were involved in some athletic exercises and even in competitions. Every four years the most respected married Greek women organized The Heraea Games, the Olympics for maiden competitors. Women were barred from even attending the Olympics let alone participating.

In contrast to other Greeks, ancient Spartans prized the physical fitness and courage of girls as well as boys. According to Xenophon, who seems to have approved wholeheartedly both of women’s sports and of Sparta’s atmosphere, the legendary Spartan legislator Lycurgus encouraged girls to run, wrestle, box and pankration. Since Spartan men most of the time were out for war and war training, there was shortage of capable men in settlements. That’s why full contact contests in different forms were quite natural for ancient female Spartans. They competed just for fun but sometimes for dominance in the society or over a man. Contests in boxing and wrestling were held according to strict predefined rules which female combatants followed. There are evidences that the ancient female pugilists wore special garments protecting important female functions from damage. Ancient pugilists usually wrapped leather straps called himantes over their hands and wrists. Evidently, married women competed in yearly harvest celebration side by side with girls.

The love poems of Propertius testify that at least one Roman poet was enchanted by the bewitching of physically active Spartan girls. His extravagant tribute deserves quotation:



I must admire the Spartan fighting schools,
But most of all I like the women’s rules…
Girls, like men, can compete nude.
Spartans think such exercises are good for women:
Girls practice in wrestling as Helen,
They bear the brunt of the Pankration match,
Put pygmachia straps on hands, so soft and fair.
They whirl the heavy discus through the air,
Gallop the circuit, helmets on their brow,
Buckling a sword too thighs as white as snow;
With hoar-frost on their hair, they join the chase
With the determination on the face
Like Amazons, breasts naked to the fray…

According to legends, Spartan girls from free classes annually competed in boxing, pankration, or wrestling in order to win the title of the village queen. Such competitions allowed girls to raise their status in the female society for years. According to a tradition, a former village queen was a referee of the competition.

<-- That's Helen. Yep, the Helen. War were fought for them ****.



So much is the story of the Spartan Queens

[YoungManRumble]

They need to all start going 3 minutes. 10 rounds is fine.

[tjones1989]

You just a woman hating misogynist bro. Women should get equal pay, because they are just as skillful as their male counterparts. This is the truth.