could sloppiano look himself in the mirror after ref saved him

[Mike Tyson77]

Everyone just stop talking bad of Marciano and Tyson. Both are legends and great fighters. Maby not the greatest, but you have to agree they are both up there with Ali,Louis,Foreman and such.

[micky_knox]

sloppiano got that 8 count
after archie moore knocked him
down. the rules for that fight
said there was not to be a 8 count.
archie moore knocked him down the ref gave
slopiano an 8 count allowing him to recover
if the ref would have followed the rules
slopiano would have lost. but the ref was
prolly on the pay roll. after that
fight slopiano retired cuz he knew that
he could not beat archie moore a lightheavywieht
with out gettin a break or cheatin

*YAWN*..............

[Mike Tyson Jr.]

Everyone just stop talking bad of Marciano and Tyson. Both are legends and great fighters. Maby not the greatest, but you have to agree they are both up there with Ali,Louis,Foreman and such.

tyson is great
but not slopiano

[PATO 1]

your a idiot

[kayjay]

You are indeed an idiot. Rocky won that fight very very convincingly. There is no doubt that for a period of several years he was the best fighter around. Get over it. That period happened to end fifty years ago. Either watch the tapes and appreciate all the brutal kos or simply let it slide.

[amagnin]

your a idiot

Thank you. How you can bash a guy like Marciano that was good for the SPORT of boxing and love Tyson who disgraced the sport so many times is beyond me. I like both guys but would never denigrate a legend like Marciano.

[PATO 1]

http://www.mdcbowen.org/cobb/archives/12tyson650.jpg

[Kid Achilles]

The ironic thing is Tyson loved Marciano and boxing history in general and if Mike heard this kid badmouthing a legend like the Rock he would cuss him out and probably ***** slap him.

It's too bad you don't have half the respect for the sport that your idol does.

[JMCbulls]

Everyone just stop talking bad of Marciano and Tyson. Both are legends and great fighters. Maby not the greatest, but you have to agree they are both up there with Ali,Louis,Foreman and such.

good post

i just watched the fight (thanks kid achilles) and this is wat i saw.

1.moore lands a clean jab, marciano seems unfased.
2.marciano lands a nice uppercut, that snaps back moores head.
3.moore throws and off balance left straight, marciano looses balance and falls.
4.marciano gets up at the two count, but the ref makes a mistake and counts two extra seconds (to four) even though there was no standing eight count.
5.marciano if fine, and it seems clear that the 2 seconds had nothing to do with his ability to fight, as he never looked truly hurt.

[SecondRoundKO]

Henry Cooper won that fight by KO and the fight should be retroactively awarded to him. Clay-Ali had won three fights in a row by blatant cheating at that point - the two Liston travesties and then the Henry Cooper robbery. Clay-Ali should have been banned from boxing for life right then and there.

I recently watched a film of the Cooper-Clay fight #1 on ESPN. they spliced the tape so that there was no indication whatsoever of the length of time between the rounds, and they made no mention of it at all! Big Brother-style political correction of history!





ww

The British boxing newspaper 'Boxing News' conducted an investigation into the 'split glove' incident in 2003. Using the original television and radio broadcasts to determine length of time between rounds 4 and 5 it was discovered that Cassius Clay only gained 5 seconds extra and not the mythical 3-5 minutes. The gloves were never changed. After this fight a spare pair of gloves was always required ringside. Ali was obviously impressed by the knockdown and on the 40th anniversary telephoned Cooper to reminisce. Ali later said, on British television, that Cooper "had hit him so hard that his ancestors in Africa felt it". In 1966 they met a second time to contest the world title. Cooper succumbed again to his weakness, a tendency to cut, and Ali went on to be "The Greatest".

Even in his 1980 book about Ali and a few others he laughs at the media creation of the glove contreversy. Ali WAS saved by the bell, but he didn't gain 5 minutes from the slicing of gloves.