Should ggg have gone to Mcgirt,& why I think Kov is at his best right now & might ko

[Vlad_]

Great stuff kushing. I agree with most of what you said, although not as much for your hate against GGG.

Haha and yes, after the 2nd Ward fight, I do remember our discussions where you were just blasting Kovalev calling him a quitter and "Foldalev", and you know that I'm a big Kovalev fan.

All in all, a great thread!

[Vlad_]

I can't buy off on the Bivol angle simply because Canelo moved up to 168 for Fielding, a way more obscure fight against a guy who lost to the best at 168. It was a nothing fight for a nothing title. Not a legacy builder.

Gvozdyk is still the best boxer of all the LHW despite his loss to Beterbiev. Long ago I felt Kovalev was overrated. I still think he defeated Ward in their first match, and he lost on low blows in the rematch. Kovalev doesn't have the grit in him as a fighter, and that is what you need against Canelo. Beterbiev and Bivol to a lesser degree, can mix it up more and won't be bullied on the inside.

I think Kovalev is a better boxer than Gvozdyk, and hits harder. I think Kovalev stops Gvozdyk, and I think Kovalev outboxes Beterbiev unless Beterbiev lands a good one and stops him. I think Gvozdyk is the weakest of that trio.

[GhostofDempsey]

I think Kovalev is a better boxer than Gvozdyk, and hits harder. I think Kovalev stops Gvozdyk, and I think Kovalev outboxes Beterbiev unless Beterbiev lands a good one and stops him. I think Gvozdyk is the weakest of that trio.

Gvozdyk was winning the fight against Beterbiev, but he chose the wrong strategy in the late rounds. Doesn't know who to scrap and make adjustments. He stood in front of him. Maybe he'll learn from this and come away a smarter fighter?

Beterbiev is crude and basic, but he has a solid chin, can mix it up dirty, and he is strong. I have to wonder how Kovalev would manage to keep him off of him for 12 rounds, I can't see it. Which is why I can't see how he will keep Canelo on the end of his punches. Canelo is faster and slicker than Beterbiev, but has a just as good if not better chin.

[boliodogs]

Heres the thing,had nelo chose Bivol all the talk would be that he ducked Kov for a smaller man with no experience. And in boxing certain fights make no sense whatsoever because no reward & all risk. Nobody knows wtf Bivol even is & Dazn wouldn't have paid Nelo to fight him & he def wouldn't win FOTD because hardly anyone would even care(casuals have no clue who he is,kov brings just as many subs to Dazn as Ggg would've especially since hes already on Dazn anyways & his fans already subbed). Out of the only available lhws Kov made the most sense & is imho better atm than Bivol/Gvoz,I said Beterbieve would ko everyone at lhw since way before which is why Shadow702 bet me that kov would win & I said he would get kod by Beterbieve,the nail & Bivol are very overrated imho, they've done nothing over kov whos miles more proven imho.

Since the gvoz fight I've seen many comments that now realize Gvoz got lucky vs the ex pedopimp & countless that say Bivols the weakest link at lhw(whether it's true or not it shows Nelo wouldn't get the same hype/prestige for Bivol & history remembers names over substance)

Your term rabid blind Nello hating/GGG groupies fits you perfectly in reverse. You are a rapid blind GGG hating Nelo groupie. The fight is a cherry pick by Canelo and the odds makers know it and have Canelo a 4.5 to 1 betting favorite to win. If you are taking a risky fight you will not be almost 5 to 1 betting favorite to win that fight. Kovalev is by far the weakest champ at 175. He did not shutout Yarde as you wrongly said. He was damn near stopped with body punches in the 8th round. Yarde was not a good figher and had never beaten a good fighter. If Canelo had fought Bivol I would not call that a cherrypick and the odds on that fight would be close to even. Kovalev is showing his age and is ready to be beaten by a good fighter like Canelo who has an iron jaw and is a great body puncher. Canelo studied him and saw his weakness and cherry picked him rather than any of the other undefeated champs. Canelo cherry picked Fielding at 168 instead of fighting the real champ Callum Smith who had already KOed Fielding in two rounds. Canelo is good at fooling the fools and cherry picking heavier but weak boxers to try to look like a superman. He was a 13 to 1 betting favorite to beat fall down Fielding. Canelo will almost certainly beat Kovalev as planned and get fighter of the year and fighter of the decade. Will he ever prove himself to be the best at any weight class and unify that weight class?????? In my honest opinion HELL NO! He won't stay at 175 and fight Bivol and Beterbiev. He won't go back to 168 and beat Callum Smith. He won't return to 160 and take the belts away from GGG, Andrade and Jermall. Canelo is the richest and most popular boxer in the world but not the best in my opinion. I think he is very good but also very overrated by many. His biggest weakness is stamina and a very low punch output per fight. He only threw 400 punches at Jacobs compared to GGG and Dervy who both threw over 700 punches at each other.

[boliodogs]

You are just putting all this effort into building up Kovalev as this great fighter to make Canelo beating Kovalev this great amazing victory instead of the cherry pick that it is. Beating Kovalev will be a good win for Canelo but nothing special for a boxer at Canelo's level. GGG would also beat Kovalev and Sanchez who trained both of them for a while said GGG was superior to Kovalev in every way. Sanchez picks Canelo to KO Kovalev with a body attack and that's the plan.

[xhiddenx87]

didnt even read. the title is just wrong. NO, Kova is not at his best now.
It will be a good fight and Im just waiting for it.
But the only dude at his prime here is Canelo.
You know it, I know it, Bookies know it. Period.

[kushking]

Your term rabid blind Nello hating/GGG groupies fits you perfectly in reverse. You are a rapid blind GGG hating Nelo groupie. The fight is a cherry pick by Canelo and the odds makers know it and have Canelo a 4.5 to 1 betting favorite to win. If you are taking a risky fight you will not be almost 5 to 1 betting favorite to win that fight. Kovalev is by far the weakest champ at 175. He did not shutout Yarde as you wrongly said. He was damn near stopped with body punches in the 8th round. Yarde was not a good figher and had never beaten a good fighter. If Canelo had fought Bivol I would not call that a cherrypick and the odds on that fight would be close to even. Kovalev is showing his age and is ready to be beaten by a good fighter like Canelo who has an iron jaw and is a great body puncher. Canelo studied him and saw his weakness and cherry picked him rather than any of the other undefeated champs. Canelo cherry picked Fielding at 168 instead of fighting the real champ Callum Smith who had already KOed Fielding in two rounds. Canelo is good at fooling the fools and cherry picking heavier but weak boxers to try to look like a superman. He was a 13 to 1 betting favorite to beat fall down Fielding. Canelo will almost certainly beat Kovalev as planned and get fighter of the year and fighter of the decade. Will he ever prove himself to be the best at any weight class and unify that weight class?????? In my honest opinion HELL NO! He won't stay at 175 and fight Bivol and Beterbiev. He won't go back to 168 and beat Callum Smith. He won't return to 160 and take the belts away from GGG, Andrade and Jermall. Canelo is the richest and most popular boxer in the world but not the best in my opinion. I think he is very good but also very overrated by many. His biggest weakness is stamina and a very low punch output per fight. He only threw 400 punches at Jacobs compared to GGG and Dervy who both threw over 700 punches at each other.

You're a joke & are exactly whom I'm referring to when I say "rabid Nelo hating/ gggroupies". If you're going to respond to my thread at least put forth an effort to not foam at the mouth while doing multiple things at once,those things are: performing mental gymnastics,cupping gs nuts, pulling things outta your ass to stab it with the same sharpened knives you reserve specially for Nelos next opponents.

Your arguments demonstrate that you are so rabid you didn't even bother reading all the posts before frothing at the mouth otherwise you'd realize the posters in this thread already covered all the things you're claiming & I already posted compubox to back up my arguments. Your arguments are just fallacies no different from all the haters(not on this thread you're only 1)which is why Charlo even thinks you're a ****** joke for saying them because he recently said so.

He admitted that Canelo earned his respect for fighting Kovalev & basically admitted Kovs considered more dangerous to insiders,& that shows how ignorant you sound.

Answer me this or stfu who has Bivol beaten better than Yarde(or E.Alvarez)& why?(this should be good & expose your novice-ness further,after you look at boxrec of course)
Ironically u say ggg has amazing stamina because he threw 700 punches(same as opponent which shows he gets hit often),& say that makes him great & nelo.not,then say kov & his 800+ punches is washed up

You're claiming Canelos not great because he doesn't throw punches & has poor stamina,yet say Kovalev(career lhw way bigger/better reach/less mileage than nelo himself/& younger than ggg) who has amazing stamina/throws/lands tons is a washed up cherrypick?

You make my point about how ****** you are with every post & even "regular/normal" ggg fans would surely agree as they aren't ****** like you as to say hes scared of an older version of the fighter he beat & faced twice,& that he ran to lhw to face the most decorated powerful career lhw until Beterbieve,
Same Beterbieve who almost got kod recently.

And yes everyone including compubox says kov arguably won 8-9 rds vs Yarde & kod him with a jab ffs.

I won't bother going further with you because you're a waste of time,& I know theres no getting through to idiots like you.

You're the only ggg fan on here ****** enough to act as if Nelo didn't already fight enough fighters for it to be assumed he'll keep fighting top opponents