wilder/pbc hater claims ruiz will make 140 mil for AJ rematch...

[BigStomps]

respectable

I think the point you might be missing from the overzealous pbc guys is that ruiz was basically left for dead....and haymon scooped him....thought there was a use for him....that's really all...of course he and his team deserve it for putting in the work and getting that W though!

just as there are "haymon/pbc" fans there are people who are over the top ridiculous against them...or supporters or arum or hearn....

Fair enough.
I like what Haymon, arum, Hearn, and Oscar are doing in investing in more boxing. They making it possible for fans to have more access to boxing on multiple tv networks and streaming platforms.
More boxing on TV is always a good thing.
What i don't like is that at one time or another ALL four of them have prevented fights us fans want to see. They are all guilty of it.
I wish all four of them would just put the bullshet to the side and worked together to make the fights we wanna see. That's what boxing really needs.

[Scipio2009]

How many US fighters turn down $100million for 3 fights, then celebrate making less than $30million for 3 other fights like they don't even realise they played themselves out of $70million?

Wilder is a fucking moron and so are you.

Wilder is still on the rise in stardom, finally starting to break out in the US/worldwide, and Anthony Joshua has basically plateaued, especially with the fallout from the Ruiz fight.

It's a long game man; after the Fury PPV, Wilder was able to get Showtime to cover the PPV to air the Breazeale fight, now has the PPV on FOX PPV for Ortiz, has a tentative deal for a PPV for the Fury rematch after that, and if he's kept on top of his job, is likely heading back to Showtime/CBS for the rest of his run on PPV.

For all the money that Joshua gets from the UK (basically $25m per fight in the UK is his ceiling), he's got the Ruiz fight in Saudi Arabia, and if he wins that, will likely be left with giving up one of his belts, to fight Pulev or Usyk, both good fights that the audience could give two ****s about.

Wilder keeps handling his business and the bet on himself pays off sooner than you think.

[DaNeutral.]

Lol what's all this nonsense? I thought we all knew what Ruiz was getting? This thread is pointless.

Who are these wilder pbc haters that you speak of?

[Curt Henning]

Fair enough.
I like what Haymon, arum, Hearn, and Oscar are doing in investing in more boxing. They making it possible for fans to have more access to boxing on multiple tv networks and streaming platforms.
More boxing on TV is always a good thing.
What i don't like is that at one time or another ALL four of them have prevented fights us fans want to see. They are all guilty of it.
I wish all four of them would just put the bullshet to the side and worked together to make the fights we wanna see. That's what boxing really needs.

sure theyre all guilty of it

but when looking at spence/crawford....doesnt haymon have a big stable of guys that he can have/had fight each other and make interesting fights out of? why would he even really look at crawford....would bob look at crawford(mr bob arum mr inhouse fights) if he had haymons stable of WWs? NOOO...hell no...

if the matchups the pbc were making at WW werent good and interesting id say it doesnt make sense....so far als put them in the ring with each other.....

now on the flip side.....why hasnt the fury/wilder rematch been done yet? that should have been done IMMEDIATELY!!!! but fury is reluctant and for sure bob didnt wanna let al have the fight for wilder

[Curt Henning]

Lol what's all this nonsense? I thought we all knew what Ruiz was getting? This thread is pointless.

Who are these wilder pbc haters that you speak of?

read the original post..its quoted for you...if you were any dumber youd be the guy that actually said it

[Curt Henning]

Wilder is still on the rise in stardom, finally starting to break out in the US/worldwide, and Anthony Joshua has basically plateaued, especially with the fallout from the Ruiz fight.

It's a long game man; after the Fury PPV, Wilder was able to get Showtime to cover the PPV to air the Breazeale fight, now has the PPV on FOX PPV for Ortiz, has a tentative deal for a PPV for the Fury rematch after that, and if he's kept on top of his job, is likely heading back to Showtime/CBS for the rest of his run on PPV.

For all the money that Joshua gets from the UK (basically $25m per fight in the UK is his ceiling), he's got the Ruiz fight in Saudi Arabia, and if he wins that, will likely be left with giving up one of his belts, to fight Pulev or Usyk, both good fights that the audience could give two ****s about.

Wilder keeps handling his business and the bet on himself pays off sooner than you think.

what these clowns dont understand is that if AJ were born american hed be wilder...and vice versa

they run around here acting like AJ doesnt have a built in fanbase...like somehow his style is so much more crowd pleasing and hes just oozing charisman....it isnt and he doesnt....he has a rabid, built in, uk fanbase.....wilders position is a victim of circumstance...if wilder was a UK medalist knocking dudes out left and right with a british accent and still unbeaten? hed be making 25 mil a fight...its that simple

wilder is still the highest paid US fighter right now...and most recognized

[Citizen Koba]

some of you are either too dumb, or blinded by al haymon hate, to see what im really saying here is how dumb you haymon haters are.......saying things like ruiz is making 140 mil in the rematch just proves you losers will try and say literally anything to make them look bad......which is pathetic and sad...its even worse than anything you can say about someone who actually defends haymon

So... basically what I'm getting here is that a guy made a mistake about how big Andy's purse was in the first fight (or possibly just pulled a figure outta his ass) and you started a thread to present that as evidence that everyone who disagrees with you is in fact ****** and pathetic.

Is that a fair synopsis?

[rickJen]

I certainly understand the frustration when fights are not made
just because the PBC choir boys are all chanting, "IT'S A LOWBALL OFFER!!"

How in Neptune could it be lowball when your fighters are averaging $1 mil per fight
and the offer on the table is 7 times as much?
And how about focusing on winning the fight first, then the money will follow later just like in Ruiz's case?
The 3 belts that were on the line didn't even matter for the Wilderites.
They want their idols to make so much money as if their heroes
are going to retire after the fight.

Let's see if they'll chant again like cult members as they are
when Hearn makes his offer to Charlo for the Andrade fight.

[BigStomps]

sure theyre all guilty of it

but when looking at spence/crawford....doesnt haymon have a big stable of guys that he can have/had fight each other and make interesting fights out of? why would he even really look at crawford....would bob look at crawford(mr bob arum mr inhouse fights) if he had haymons stable of WWs? NOOO...hell no...

if the matchups the pbc were making at WW werent good and interesting id say it doesnt make sense....so far als put them in the ring with each other.....

now on the flip side.....why hasnt the fury/wilder rematch been done yet? that should have been done IMMEDIATELY!!!! but fury is reluctant and for sure bob didnt wanna let al have the fight for wilder

Not dis*****g anything you said man. You're accurate in everything you said.
Still sucks that we can't see Spence and Crawford fight each other right now while they both in their prime...

[Curt Henning]

So... basically what I'm getting here is that a guy made a mistake about how big Andy's purse was in the first fight (or possibly just pulled a figure outta his ass) and you started a thread to present that as evidence that everyone who disagrees with you is in fact ****** and pathetic.

Is that a fair synopsis?

it wasnt a mistake man...it was generated to make it look as if ruiz is so much better off than wilder....."hes making 20x what he made in the first fight...look at wilder making a pittance"....the last half of that quote I actually made up but its actually implied if you read the guys quote

he represents a vast majority of the type....not all...but alot of them....alot of people are hating on wilder when hes the most known and highest paid US boxer.....how many US fighters have taken home 30 mil in the last year and a half? how many US have taken that in their lives that are active?