wilder/pbc hater claims ruiz will make 140 mil for AJ rematch...

[kafkod]

Wilder is still on the rise in stardom, finally starting to break out in the US/worldwide, and Anthony Joshua has basically plateaued, especially with the fallout from the Ruiz fight.

It's a long game man; after the Fury PPV, Wilder was able to get Showtime to cover the PPV to air the Breazeale fight, now has the PPV on FOX PPV for Ortiz, has a tentative deal for a PPV for the Fury rematch after that, and if he's kept on top of his job, is likely heading back to Showtime/CBS for the rest of his run on PPV.

For all the money that Joshua gets from the UK (basically $25m per fight in the UK is his ceiling), he's got the Ruiz fight in Saudi Arabia, and if he wins that, will likely be left with giving up one of his belts, to fight Pulev or Usyk, both good fights that the audience could give two ****s about.

Wilder keeps handling his business and the bet on himself pays off sooner than you think.

Ok mate. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[Bullrider]

So the Wilder vs Joshua fight was not made, and these idiotic PBC fanboys are happy bragging about how much Wilder made without Joshua. These are the kinds of fans we have today. They're just happy seeing their idol Wilder make so and so millions after 3 fights when he could have made more plus 3 belts in one fight.

Makes me sick.

[DaNeutral.]

read the original post..its quoted for you...if you were any dumber youd be the guy that actually said it

lol you PBC fans are funny, wrong in the head and embarrassingly lame, but funny.

[Scipio2009]

How many US fighters turn down $100million for 3 fights, then celebrate making less than $30million for 3 other fights like they don't even realise they played themselves out of $70million?

Wilder is a fucking moron and so are you.

Wilder is still on the rise in stardom, finally starting to break out in the US/worldwide, and Anthony Joshua has basically plateaued, especially with the fallout from the Ruiz fight.

It's a long game man; after the Fury PPV, Wilder was able to get Showtime to cover the PPV to air the Breazeale fight, now has the PPV on FOX PPV for Ortiz, has a tentative deal for a PPV for the Fury rematch after that, and if he's kept on top of his job, is likely heading back to Showtime/CBS for the rest of his run on PPV.

For all the money that Joshua gets from the UK (basically $25m per fight in the UK is his ceiling), he's got the Ruiz fight in Saudi Arabia, and if he wins that, will likely be left with giving up one of his belts, to fight Pulev or Usyk, both good fights that the audience could give two ****s about.

Wilder keeps handling his business and the bet on himself pays off sooner than you think.

[Scipio2009]

Yeah and none of that adds up to a plan from Al Haymon for Ruiz getting the shot at AJ.

Ruiz got the fight (directly), Ruiz won the fight, Ruiz gets the credit.

Ruiz doesn't even get considered for the Joshua fight, had he not just blown out Diremetienko (sp) on PBC on FOX, under Danny Garcia.

If you want to try to convince yourself otherwise, that's on you

[Scipio2009]

Aye if you wanna thank Al Haymon for taking a chance on Andy Ruiz and giving him an opportunity to fight on the Garcia-Granados fight then that's cool. I've got no problem with that.
But when a manager/promoter starts getting more props than the fighter himself for beating his opponent and becoming world champ then that just shows you that motherfuccers on here aren't boxing fans. They some promoter/network groupies. That's all I'm trying to say.
I've got nothing against Al Haymon and i hope he keeps signing fighters and putting on fights for us fans to enjoy.
But Andy deserves the credit for actually beating AJ not Al Haymon.

No one is taking away Andy's credit; he got the opportunity, weathered the storm, won dueling pistols, and delivered for his camp and family.

Still, Andy Ruiz didn't manifest that opportunity on his own is all I'm pointing out.

[Scipio2009]

I certainly understand the frustration when fights are not made
just because the PBC choir boys are all chanting, "IT'S A LOWBALL OFFER!!"

How in Neptune could it be lowball when your fighters are averaging $1 mil per fight
and the offer on the table is 7 times as much?
And how about focusing on winning the fight first, then the money will follow later just like in Ruiz's case?
The 3 belts that were on the line didn't even matter for the Wilderites.
They want their idols to make so much money as if their heroes
are going to retire after the fight.

Let's see if they'll chant again like cult members as they are
when Hearn makes his offer to Charlo for the Andrade fight.

Fair value above everything.

Hypothetically speaking, if everyone in the conversation knows that the pot is $5m ($3m from the TV, $1m from the live event, $1m etc), and $1m is enough to build the show/undercard, and the two main fighters are equal, $1m will be pulled to cover the show, with the $4m split evenly.

No issues; no bull****.

If it's known that the pot is $50m, and the acceptable split is 60/40, fair value is $20m, so even if your prior high was $2.5m, no one is taking $15m when they have clear grounds for $20m.

Jermall Charlo, again, owns his next fight; the Showtime money, the Barclays Center money, the UK TV money, etc will all flow into the pot, everything will be covered, and Hogan will likely head home with the equivalent of 20% of the final take, with Charlo keeping the rest.

Jermall Charlo has a number now, for what he's built to earn so far, he'll possibly have a Charlo-Eubank Jr fight in hand, and that will be weighed against what Hearn can offer.

Hopefully he doesn't hide the money

[Jax teller]

Ruiz doesn't even get considered for the Joshua fight, had he not just blown out Diremetienko (sp) on PBC on FOX, under Danny Garcia.

If you want to try to convince yourself otherwise, that's on you

Ruiz would even have got a shot of Dimitrenko if Arum hadn't let him go, so Arum got him the AJ fight right?

Lol Haymon kept him active, he didn't get him the fight there's a difference. Might as well say an ape millions of years ago got him the fight by shagging another one to become Ruiz's ancestors creating the turn of events and circumstances that happened to get to this point.

Some of you fellas reach to hard to suck Haymon off, it's gross.

[Tyistall]

The guy on here saying that Wilder somehow made 30 million for his last three fights, definitely rode the short bus as a kid hahaha. They GAVE away tickets to the Fury Wilder fight to make the arena look full, and it still wasn't at capacity. They took the Breazeale fight OFF PPV to save themselves embarrassment and this Ortiz fight will be the worst PPV of this year...but they won't release the real number to us I guarantee it. They will say it did "around 170k" or so when they know full well it didn't do more than 50k hahah. But somehow, out of all this, Wilder is getting 30 million???? Nah man, not even close. He's a coward and a fraud for turning down 120 million and unification, so stop spinning it like he "bet on himself" hahahahaa.

[QueensburyRules]

right here on the scene



this is why you idiots cant be taken seriously

it wasnt long ago the same types would tell us that haymon wont let his guys fight each other despite us all showing irrefutable proof that he does

these are the same type of idiots out here today acting like charlo wouldnt fight andrade no way no how...when years ago you all hated andrade before he signed to DAZN....and it was andrades father telling everyone showtime only offered them 250k, and andrade pulled out like a week before the fight, despite andrades promoter artie pelullo telling everyone that was wrong/lie and the offer was double that

you clowns cant be taken seriously....140 mil! lol....if that were true than guess who led ruiz to that money!?!?!?! he took a fat, 25-1 dog, and made him richer beyond his wildest dreams! oh thats right! uncle al!!!!

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