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  • fitbird38
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    always love to read your threads

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      #12
      Originally posted by Jab jab boom
      a 29 year old 4-1 favorite is making the riskiest move by an A sider that you can remember by facing a 36 yr old who is 4-3 in his last 7 fights? Have you only been watching boxing for 6 months?
      People in the know of boxing understand that this is a very dangerous fight.

      Name one fight that was "riskier" in the last 5 years. Where a clear A fighter moved up 2 weight classes against a HOF and ATG LHW coming off consecutive wins against Top 10 LHWs.

      Name one. Cuck

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        #13
        Originally posted by UNBANNED
        People in the know of boxing understand that this is a very dangerous fight.

        Name one fight that was "riskier" in the last 5 years. Where a clear A fighter moved up 2 weight classes against a HOF and ATG LHW coming off consecutive wins against Top 10 LHWs.

        Name one. Cuck
        don't get sensitive because my post made you look like a moron. Hall of fame doesn't mean too much when you're on the downside of your career and 4-3 in your last 7 and almost got stopped by a novice 2 months ago. Sure there's risk but there's a reason why Canelo is a 4-1 favorite. You thinking you're "in the know" is a joke. Mikey Garcia took a bigger risk as the A side vs spence. Pac took a bigger risk as the A side vs Thurman, Cotto took a bigger risk as the A side vs Canelo,
        Canelo took a bigger risk as the A side by facing ggg, Andre ward took a bigger risk as the A side when he took on an undefetaed prime version of Kovalev. Watch a little more boxing and maybe you can keep up next time instead of coming off as a liittle fan boy b***h.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Jab jab boom
          don't get sensitive because my post made you look like a moron. Hall of fame doesn't mean too much when you're on the downside of your career and 4-3 in your last 7 and almost got stopped by a novice 2 months ago. Sure there's risk but there's a reason why Canelo is a 4-1 favorite. You thinking you're "in the know" is a joke. Mikey Garcia took a bigger risk as the A side vs spence. Pac took a bigger risk as the A side vs Thurman, Cotto took a bigger risk as the A side vs Canelo,
          Canelo took a bigger risk as the A side by facing ggg, Andre ward took a bigger risk as the A side when he took on an undefetaed prime version of Kovalev. Watch a little more boxing and maybe you can keep up next time instead of coming off as a liittle fan boy b***h.
          So now you're comparing fighters to Kovalev to flex your boxing prowess:

          Spence - No. His best win is over a LIGHTWEIGHT at WELTERweight. His only 2 ww fights worth talking about were Kell Brook (after moving up then down 2 weight classes and having reconstructive surgery) and that fight was 4-4 after 8 rounds before Kell gassed which is what happens when you jump weight classes. Shawn MMAPorter clearly demonstrated that Spence is a decent fighter and nothing more.

          Spence- WRONG.

          Thurman is a decent WW. Probably a B-, but he was very clearly outboxed against Manny. The fight was only close because Manny gassed a few times and that happens when you're 41 years old. Thurman is also a medium sized WW, not a career MW.

          Thurman- WRONG.

          Cotto enforced the 155lb catchweight on Canelo in their fight and Canelo was already an equal in terms of PPV stardom. That was a good fight, but Cotto was dragging Canelo up in weight class although these are were clearly the same size.

          Canelo - WRONG.

          Canelo moving up for Borat. Another great career move by Ca$hnelo, but Borat is a spitting image of Kovalev. Borat arguably lost every single fight against Top 5 fighters. Danny Jacobs was probably 6-6, but 7-5 in Dannys favor was conceivable. Dervenchenko beat Borat...plain and simple. Canelo danced to a draw in the 1st fight although a 7-5 win for Borat is feasible, but Canelo also BATTERED Borat in their rematch. GGG just isn't as good as Kovalev and he never was in his career.

          Borat - WRONG.

          Hi boy

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            #15
            Originally posted by UNBANNED
            So now you're comparing fighters to Kovalev to flex your boxing prowess:

            Spence - No. His best win is over a LIGHTWEIGHT at WELTERweight. His only 2 ww fights worth talking about were Kell Brook (after moving up then down 2 weight classes and having reconstructive surgery) and that fight was 4-4 after 8 rounds before Kell gassed which is what happens when you jump weight classes. Shawn MMAPorter clearly demonstrated that Spence is a decent fighter and nothing more.

            Spence- WRONG.

            Thurman is a decent WW. Probably a B-, but he was very clearly outboxed against Manny. The fight was only close because Manny gassed a few times and that happens when you're 41 years old. Thurman is also a medium sized WW, not a career MW.

            Thurman- WRONG.

            Cotto enforced the 155lb catchweight on Canelo in their fight and Canelo was already an equal in terms of PPV stardom. That was a good fight, but Cotto was dragging Canelo up in weight class although these are were clearly the same size.

            Canelo - WRONG.

            Canelo moving up for Borat. Another great career move by Ca$hnelo, but Borat is a spitting image of Kovalev. Borat arguably lost every single fight against Top 5 fighters. Danny Jacobs was probably 6-6, but 7-5 in Dannys favor was conceivable. Dervenchenko beat Borat...plain and simple. Canelo danced to a draw in the 1st fight although a 7-5 win for Borat is feasible, but Canelo also BATTERED Borat in their rematch. GGG just isn't as good as Kovalev and he never was in his career.

            Borat - WRONG.

            Hi boy
            so all of the fights I mentioned, where the A sides opened up as underdogs were less risky than Canelo who opened up as a 4-1 favorite. Why? Because you said so? Lmaooooo fk off clown. Now you're just debating to try and maintain some dignity because you clearly feel ******. Give it up.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Jab jab boom
              so all of the fights I mentioned, where the A sides opened up as underdogs were less risky than Canelo who opened up as a 4-1 favorite. Why? Because you said so? Lmaooooo fk off clown. Now you're just debating to try and maintain some dignity because you clearly feel ******. Give it up.
              Betting odds? What do they matter?

              Andy Ruiz just KTFO Anthony Joshua and Ruiz was a 12:1 underdog. Ruiz was THE SAME WEIGHT CLASS and still a 12:1 underdog.

              Canelo is moving UP 2 weight classes and is still a favorite...because hes PFP #3 in the world. Hes THAT good, but Kovalev is ALSO THAT GOOD.

              Kovalev has wins over ATG and arguably the best SMW EVER in the history of the sport.

              Golovkin has none of those. Spencer has none of those. Your examples are simply CRAP.

              You are a child next to me. Call your father Dad, SON.

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                #17
                Originally posted by UNBANNED
                Betting odds? What do they matter?

                Andy Ruiz just KTFO Anthony Joshua and Ruiz was a 12:1 underdog. Ruiz was THE SAME WEIGHT CLASS and still a 12:1 underdog.

                Canelo is moving UP 2 weight classes and is still a favorite...because hes PFP #3 in the world. Hes THAT good, but Kovalev is ALSO THAT GOOD.

                Kovalev has wins over ATG and arguably the best SMW EVER in the history of the sport.

                Golovkin has none of those. Spencer has none of those. Your examples are simply CRAP.

                You are a child next to me. Call your father Dad, SON.
                so Vegas odds don't matter but your opinion does? Stfu clown. Of course you can bring up upsets but the amount of upsets that happen in comparison to the amount of fights where favorites win isn't even. You're talking up Kovalev like he's the same guy who was knocking pascal around the ring yrs ago. He was just getting his ass ko'd last yr and was damn near ko'd by a novice 2 months ago. Now at 36 he's fighting Canelo on short rest. The fact that you have the nerve to say this is the biggest risk you can remember an A side taking just makes you 1 of 2 things, either you're a pathetic groupie canelo nut hugger or an idiot who doesn't know s*** about boxing. You pick which one pertains to you.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by UNBANNED
                  So now you're comparing fighters to Kovalev to flex your boxing prowess:

                  Spence - No. His best win is over a LIGHTWEIGHT at WELTERweight. His only 2 ww fights worth talking about were Kell Brook (after moving up then down 2 weight classes and having reconstructive surgery) and that fight was 4-4 after 8 rounds before Kell gassed which is what happens when you jump weight classes. Shawn MMAPorter clearly demonstrated that Spence is a decent fighter and nothing more.

                  Spence- WRONG.

                  Thurman is a decent WW. Probably a B-, but he was very clearly outboxed against Manny. The fight was only close because Manny gassed a few times and that happens when you're 41 years old. Thurman is also a medium sized WW, not a career MW.

                  Thurman- WRONG.

                  Cotto enforced the 155lb catchweight on Canelo in their fight and Canelo was already an equal in terms of PPV stardom. That was a good fight, but Cotto was dragging Canelo up in weight class although these are were clearly the same size.

                  Canelo - WRONG.

                  Canelo moving up for Borat. Another great career move by Ca$hnelo, but Borat is a spitting image of Kovalev. Borat arguably lost every single fight against Top 5 fighters. Danny Jacobs was probably 6-6, but 7-5 in Dannys favor was conceivable. Dervenchenko beat Borat...plain and simple. Canelo danced to a draw in the 1st fight although a 7-5 win for Borat is feasible, but Canelo also BATTERED Borat in their rematch. GGG just isn't as good as Kovalev and he never was in his career.

                  Borat - WRONG.

                  Hi boy
                  Cotto is clearly smaller than Canelo. Mannys odds over Thurman were slight. Canelo's odds over Kovalev are around 4-1. Sorry but Danny lost that fight against Golovkin which
                  is his real name. The two fights with Canelo was a clear win in the first and a closer win for Golovkin in the rematch.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by TonyGe
                    Cotto is clearly smaller than Canelo. Mannys odds over Thurman were slight. Canelo's odds over Kovalev are around 4-1. Sorry but Danny lost that fight against Golovkin which
                    is his real name. The two fights with Canelo was a clear win in the first and a closer win for Golovkin in the rematch.
                    Maybe that's why Cotto enforced 155lb CW...

                    You are in a very, very, very small minority who think Borat beat Danny J and Canelo twice. Official scores of 1-1-1 what most fans accept because there was almost nothing separating any of those fights...suggesting Borat was never great but still entertaining.

                    The problem with fans like you is yall have Borat winning before the fight even starts.

                    Dervenchenko flat out beat Borat. It was an 8-4 type win which was 115-112 because of the illegal KD lmfao

                    But you Borat ****** cucks will NEVER demonstrate objectivity. It's the same with PBC blacks who can only root for black fighters. You Borat ******s only root for ******s. In both scenarios the truth is distorted because of your PREJUDICE

                    Objectively speaking Bo**** BEST outcome in his only actual fights at MW is 2-1-1 and that's being generous to Borat. In reality Borat is 1-3-0, but MSM gave him 2-1-1 lololololol

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by UNBANNED
                      Maybe that's why Cotto enforced 155lb CW...

                      You are in a very, very, very small minority who think Borat beat Danny J and Canelo twice. Official scores of 1-1-1 what most fans accept because there was almost nothing separating any of those fights...suggesting Borat was never great but still entertaining.

                      The problem with fans like you is yall have Borat winning before the fight even starts.

                      Dervenchenko flat out beat Borat. It was an 8-4 type win which was 115-112 because of the illegal KD lmfao

                      But you Borat ****** cucks will NEVER demonstrate objectivity. It's the same with PBC blacks who can only root for black fighters. You Borat ******s only root for ******s. In both scenarios the truth is distorted because of your PREJUDICE

                      Objectively speaking Bo**** BEST outcome in his only actual fights at MW is 2-1-1 and that's being generous to Borat. In reality Borat is 1-3-0, but MSM gave him 2-1-1 lololololol
                      Actually I'm not part if a very very small minority. In regards to the first fight with Canelo most people believe Golovkin won. Most fans and boxing insiders had him winning the rematch. If you believe Jacobs won the fight that's your preogative. You may as well get that wrong as well because your arguments are full of inaccuracies. May as well add that to the list along with reach doesn't matter, Mayweather is always smaller than his opponent, all his opponents are in their prime and he's never cherry picked an opponent. Mayweather is a great fighter and accomplished a lot in his career but he's not the best fighter ever in his weight classes.

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