Comments Thread For: Haney: I Want Lomachenko Right Now, Not When He's 'Older'

[D4thincarnation]

Drawing power is about the size of the crowd. He isn't a top draw.

If I am correct, He didn't make his statement after Loma said he was going to wait to fight the comney/lopez winner next. My guess is Haney was surprised by that decision knowing Loma was eager to fight Crolla , who was an easy mark. Haney is the mando and he has the right to ask for a title shot he has earned.

Haney just wants his fair shot. Shame some of Loma's fans are so afraid of having this fight made.

Nope, it the fans you draw to watch the fight and the money generated.

Yet he didn't make the statement when he became mando, only when he signed to fight some other guy.


Usyk is the mandatory for Joshua/Ruiz WBO title.

If say Joshua wins, and rather than ask for that fight Uysk then signs to fight Takam then claims he wants to fight Joshua and Joshua should not fight Wilder and has to wait around to fight him and the Wilder will have to wait, would you say Joshua has to fight Usyk instead of the Unification bout with Wilder?

If Haney wanted his shot, then why sign to fight someone else.

His actions betray his words?

[The Big Dunn]

Nope, it the fans you draw to watch the fight and the money generated.

Yet he didn't make the statement when he became mando, only when he signed to fight some other guy.


Usyk is the mandatory for Joshua/Ruiz WBO title.

If say Joshua wins, and rather than ask for that fight Uysk then signs to fight Takam then claims he wants to fight Joshua and Joshua should not fight Wilder and has to wait around to fight him and the Wilder will have to wait, would you say Joshua has to fight Usyk instead of the Unification bout with Wilder?

If Haney wanted his shot, then why sign to fight someone else.

His actions betray his words?

No it isn't. Loma is just not a huge draw. There is no reason anyone would use his name for promotional purpouses.

When he became the mando, Loma hadn't said he would wait until the lopez/comney winner to fight again.

Your question has nothing to do with this discussion. We got here because you claimed Haney had to "Earn" a fight with Loma upon seeing him say this. Many of us responded with he is the mando so he has already done that. Usyk has earned a title fight with Ruiz the same way Haney has earned a title fight with Loma.

He signed to stay busy because Loma planned to wait.

The better question is why defend against Crolla before unifying and not Haney? Answer: Haney is more difficult than Crolla and too much of a risk.

[Flo_Raiden]

I don't agree that he is chasing fighters that "pose a bigger problem". You guys are saying he will fight the tank/Gamboa winner but have said for years he destroys Tank and that Gamboa is done. Now that Haney is #1 wbc, you guys are saying Tank or Gamboa would pose a threat. I have no issue with wanting to unify but watching how some posters are changing their view of Tank suddenly is striking.

I am not suggesting Haney is anything special. He does have speed, good IQ, and a long enough reach to keep Loma off him. Doesn't mean he will win.

You're point about him improving himself is irrelevant since he won the eliminator to earn the mando spot. Now you may personally feel he isn't skilled enough to beat Loma, that is a fair opinion. That doesn't mean the fight shouldn't happen, especially since you don't think other like Tank is skilled enough to beat him.

You must be mistaking me for other Lomachenko fans because I have never said any of these things on this forum other than that I think Loma beats Tank. I have never said he would destroy him, nor have I said that Gamboa was a threat all of a sudden. I think Davis is a bigger challenge than Haney but never have I said he would be easy work for Loma. This is the reason why I don't usually get involved in these kinds of conversations on this forum because I'll have people like you put me in a spot where you think that I'm part of this group saying nonsense. Please don't assume that I've been saying all that just because I don't agree with you.
I'm not saying that Haney shouldn't fight Loma in the future, I'm just saying that he should not be the main priority for Loma to fight when he is eyeing on a more lucrative fight against either Davis or Commey/Lopez.

[D4thincarnation]

No it isn't. Loma is just not a huge draw. There is no reason anyone would use his name for promotional purpouses.

When he became the mando, Loma hadn't said he would wait until the lopez/comney winner to fight again.

Your question has nothing to do with this discussion. We got here because you claimed Haney had to "Earn" a fight with Loma upon seeing him say this. Many of us responded with he is the mando so he has already done that. Usyk has earned a title fight with Ruiz the same way Haney has earned a title fight with Loma.

He signed to stay busy because Loma planned to wait.

The better question is why defend against Crolla before unifying and not Haney? Answer: Haney is more difficult than Crolla and too much of a risk.

Like I said, biggest draw under 147lbs.

Haney is using his name to promote himself and it is working, hence the article.

He should have spoke up before and fought Loma in December.

Instead he took and easy fight and padded his weak record

I wonder why he didn't and only became brave when he knew the fight would be at least a year away if ever.

[D4thincarnation]

You must be mistaking me for other Lomachenko fans because I have never said any of these things on this forum other than that I think Loma beats Tank. I have never said he would destroy him, nor have I said that Gamboa was a threat all of a sudden. I think Davis is a bigger challenge than Haney but never have I said he would be easy work for Loma. This is the reason why I don't usually get involved in these kinds of conversations on this forum because I'll have people like you put me in a spot where you think that I'm part of this group saying nonsense. Please don't assume that I've been saying all that just because I don't agree with you.
I'm not saying that Haney shouldn't fight Loma in the future, I'm just saying that he should not be the main priority for Loma to fight when he is eyeing on a more lucrative fight against either Davis or Commey/Lopez.

Exactly and any true boxing fan wants to see these fights as they are the biggest to be made involving the proven best.

It seems some people don't want the best and biggest fights though.

[Flo_Raiden]

Drawing power is about the size of the crowd. He isn't a top draw.

If I am correct, He didn't make his statement after Loma said he was going to wait to fight the comney/lopez winner next. My guess is Haney was surprised by that decision knowing Loma was eager to fight Crolla , who was an easy mark. Haney is the mando and he has the right to ask for a title shot he has earned.

Haney just wants his fair shot. Shame some of Loma's fans are so afraid of having this fight made.

Again, Loma did NOT want to fight Crolla, nor did Arum wanted that fight to be made. Loma was supposed to fight Commey but he had to withdraw due to injuries. Loma needed an opponent and Crolla was available, he had no choice but to fight Crolla because if he didn't he would have given up the WBA title. Don't pretend like Loma was eager to face Crolla because he was an "easy" opponent, he was forced to face him if he wanted to keep his belt.

Let's be honest here, no one is really saying that Haney is any kind of threat nor are they afraid to have that fight made. You are only saying that just so you can stir up the Loma fans, knowing that a fight between Loma and Haney can't be made at this time.

[The Big Dunn]

You must be mistaking me for other Lomachenko fans because I have never said any of these things on this forum other than that I think Loma beats Tank. I have never said he would destroy him, nor have I said that Gamboa was a threat all of a sudden. I think Davis is a bigger challenge than Haney but never have I said he would be easy work for Loma. This is the reason why I don't usually get involved in these kinds of conversations on this forum because I'll have people like you put me in a spot where you think that I'm part of this group saying nonsense. Please don't assume that I've been saying all that just because I don't agree with you.
I'm not saying that Haney shouldn't fight Loma in the future, I'm just saying that he should not be the main priority for Loma to fight when he is eyeing on a more lucrative fight against either Davis or Commey/Lopez.

OK, I apologize. I am responding to so many other posters that I attributed something to you that you didn't state. will make sure that doesn't happen again.

As to your last paragraph-ok. It makes sense that Loma doesn't want to risk fighting Haney before making the bigger money fights.

[The Big Dunn]

Like I said, biggest draw under 147lbs.

Haney is using his name to promote himself and it is working, hence the article.

He should have spoke up before and fought Loma in December.

Instead he took and easy fight and padded his weak record

I wonder why he didn't and only became brave when he knew the fight would be at least a year away if ever.

Posting it repeatedly doesn't make it true.

Loma decided to wait. I am pretty sure Haney speaking earlier wouldn't have changed that plan. Petrov is a 2 time title contender, its exactly the kind of fight #1 contenders take when they can't get the champ to fight.

Why would the fight be a "a year away, if ever"?

[The Big Dunn]

Again, Loma did NOT want to fight Crolla, nor did Arum wanted that fight to be made. Loma was supposed to fight Commey but he had to withdraw due to injuries. Loma needed an opponent and Crolla was available, he had no choice but to fight Crolla because if he didn't he would have given up the WBA title. Don't pretend like Loma was eager to face Crolla because he was an "easy" opponent, he was forced to face him if he wanted to keep his belt.

Let's be honest here, no one is really saying that Haney is any kind of threat nor are they afraid to have that fight made. You are only saying that just so you can stir up the Loma fans, knowing that a fight between Loma and Haney can't be made at this time.

He was dude. I never claimed Comeny didn't get injured. But the willingness was there because Crolla was an easy mark. We all know this.

For the record, I responded to you and d4th because you both claimed Haney had to "Earn" a fight with Loma. I felt you were both wrong because Haney was the mando and thus had earned the fight. You didn't even know he was the mando.

I am saying some of his fans must perceive him as one because they are using all the coded language-he has to "Earn" the fight, what has he done, who has he beat- that posters use when they feel a guy poses some risk to a fighter they like but aren't willing to admit it.

In your last post you you stated something I can agree with-Loma is focused on bigger money fights and doesn't see the need to fight Haney before that. Ok, I can accept that reason.

[D4thincarnation]

Posting it repeatedly doesn't make it true.

Loma decided to wait. I am pretty sure Haney speaking earlier wouldn't have changed that plan. Petrov is a 2 time title contender, its exactly the kind of fight #1 contenders take when they can't get the champ to fight.

Why would the fight be a "a year away, if ever"?

Nope, Loma decided nothing.

And Haney decided to be quiet when he was made mandatory.

And only spoke up when it was safe to and he signed to fight someone else.

When will Haney step up and fight anyone of note, anyone?