Comments Thread For: Haney: I Want Lomachenko Right Now, Not When He's 'Older'

[The Big Dunn]

The fight between Commey and Lopez is expected to be on December 14, less than 2 months away and Loma wants to make sure he gets a fight signed against the winner once their fight is settled. There's no way he can get a fight with Haney in between all that in a short amount of time when he's waiting for the opportunity to get the fight made with Commey/Lopez ASAP. You are asking Loma to try and squeeze in time to get a fight made with Haney first before Commey/Lopez, when he could just wait less than 2 months to negotiate for a much bigger fight.

Crolla wasn't even a fight that Loma's team wanted, they were supposed to fight Commey but he had to withdraw due to injuries and had no choice but to face Crolla.

there will be no issues signing the lopez/comney winner to fight seeing as they are all under the top rank umbrella. The only problem would be if Loma fought and lost. If you are ok with him waiting and not fighting in between-ok.

I think there is plenty of time available to make both fights. Comeny/Lopez winner doesn't have to be next. If Haney is such an easy win then take care of the mando before unifying, especially since the 2 companies have worked together for a Loma fight in the same division.

[Flo_Raiden]

I didn't post or imply he was a bigger threat than any of those guys so I don't understand why you would ask that.

I haven't seen any poster suggest Haney would beat Loma so I'm not sure why you bring up the boogieman comment. You can't seem to focus on the issue at hand-your asking Haney to earn a shot he already earned.

Comney may not beat Lopez, if he doesn't, Loma isn't fighting him. Berchelt has never fought at 135 to my knowledge. Quite possibly he could be like Morales at 135 or Broner at 147 and find the weight is too much for him. Would've loved to see Loma/Berchelt at 130 but Loma didn't fight him before moving up. Davis too my knowledge hasn't fought at 135 either.

I guess you guys see Haney's speed, athleticism and skill and perceive him as a threat. otherwise I figure you guys would be ok with Loma fighting him and getting the mando out of the way before unifying the titles as was the case with Crolla.

If you don't see him as a threat, then why are you and others asking him to earn a shot at a title he earned already by winning the eliminator?

Loma is chasing after fighters that pose a bigger problem to him but you seem to be insinuating that other people sees Haney as this supposed threat somehow when that's not even the case at all, you are just assuming that. Just based on the fights that I've seen of Haney I do think he's a good talented prospect but I'm not totally crazy for him or see him as this incredible talent, let alone someone that can be a challenge for Loma IMO. I think he needs a lot more time to improve himself.

[The Big Dunn]

No he doesn't.

Haney preferred to fight Petr Petrov next month.

Maybe Haney should have ran his mouth before taking this fight?

Loma will look to take the IBF title in the first quarter next year.

Wait, so now you are criticizing Haney for taking a stay busy fight because he can't get a fight with his mando. If this was GGG you'd be killing the champion claiming he was ducking.

Haney earned the fight. Loma can fight him before going on to unify and as you say leaving the division.

I have a feeling Loma is going to leave 135 without having fought Devin, same as he left 130 without fighting Berchelt. That would be a shame.

In the past you have been very critical of fighters that don't fight guys in divisions. Lets hope you do same with Loma.

[Flo_Raiden]

there will be no issues signing the lopez/comney winner to fight seeing as they are all under the top rank umbrella. The only problem would be if Loma fought and lost. If you are ok with him waiting and not fighting in between-ok.

I think there is plenty of time available to make both fights. Comeny/Lopez winner doesn't have to be next. If Haney is such an easy win then take care of the mando before unifying, especially since the 2 companies have worked together for a Loma fight in the same division.

I just think it makes more sense for Loma to just wait 2 months nd not have to go through the trouble of squeezing a stay busy fight against the mando in between when he could just go after the bigger money / legacy fight and get that fight signed right away.

[Bmore18]

Too bad Haney wont be getting the fight anytime soon.

[The Big Dunn]

Loma is chasing after fighters that pose a bigger problem to him but you seem to be insinuating that other people sees Haney as this supposed threat somehow when that's not even the case at all, you are just assuming that. Just based on the fights that I've seen of Haney I do think he's a good talented prospect but I'm not totally crazy for him or see him as this incredible talent, let alone someone that can be a challenge for Loma IMO. I think he needs a lot more time to improve himself.

I don't agree that he is chasing fighters that "pose a bigger problem". You guys are saying he will fight the tank/Gamboa winner but have said for years he destroys Tank and that Gamboa is done. Now that Haney is #1 wbc, you guys are saying Tank or Gamboa would pose a threat. I have no issue with wanting to unify but watching how some posters are changing their view of Tank suddenly is striking.

I am not suggesting Haney is anything special. He does have speed, good IQ, and a long enough reach to keep Loma off him. Doesn't mean he will win.

You're point about him improving himself is irrelevant since he won the eliminator to earn the mando spot. Now you may personally feel he isn't skilled enough to beat Loma, that is a fair opinion. That doesn't mean the fight shouldn't happen, especially since you don't think other like Tank is skilled enough to beat him.

[The Big Dunn]

I just think it makes more sense for Loma to just wait 2 months nd not have to go through the trouble of squeezing a stay busy fight against the mando in between when he could just go after the bigger money / legacy fight and get that fight signed right away.

Ok, I understand this. i was just responding to you saying he needed to earn the fight.

As for waiting-that is my point about threat. Crolla was an easy win so most Loma fans didn't care if he fought him before unifying. Haney is a bmuch more of a risk than Crolla for damn sure.

[D4thincarnation]

Wait, so now you are criticizing Haney for taking a stay busy fight because he can't get a fight with his mando. If this was GGG you'd be killing the champion claiming he was ducking.

Haney earned the fight. Loma can fight him before going on to unify and as you say leaving the division.

I have a feeling Loma is going to leave 135 without having fought Devin, same as he left 130 without fighting Berchelt. That would be a shame.

In the past you have been very critical of fighters that don't fight guys in divisions. Lets hope you do same with Loma.

Yes, talk when you ain't got a fight lined up.
Talking after you got the fight is him just trying to use Loma's name to promote his fight.


Nope. When do you expect Loma to fight Haney? January? That would scupper the IBF title fight.

Haney just talking because he knows he is safe now.

Loma is making history while Haney is struggling to make a little noise.

[brick wall]

Another loudmouth. This is the same thing teofimo lopez was doing before...calling out loma every chance he gets in front of media. Now that *****s about to get real for lopez to fight loma if (a big if) he gets past commey, he's not talking mad anymore.

Let's see if this haney kid will still have the same eagerness when he gets his chance. There's no "right now" for him though because loma has a bigger challenge (than haney) lined up for him which is the winner of commey-lopez. For the meantime haney should just focus on his next unranked (relevant ranking) opponent lol.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

There is no difference. Posters need to start having one standard for callouts, not multiple. Additionally, they need to have one standard for ducking. If you tell me wilder is ducking Usyk, than Loma is ducking Haney. You simply can't have it both ways.

As for having a backup boogie man, as a Floyd fan I can tell you is that how things work on this site. Beat one guy and they will immediately line up another. Teo is quiet because he didn't get the fight he wanted but was made to take the Comeny fight first. I actually respect the fact he is focused on his next opponent rather than someone he may never get a fight with.

He went quiet right after Lomachenko said that he hopes he gets to fight Teo and make him pay for everything he has said.

Then Teo goes on to struggle against a tall Japanese guy and right after the fight says "no more tall guys".

Then the possibility arises that he might not even fight Commey because hes having personal issues. I wonder why? Dad throwing his kid to the sharks. He might not even win. I'm not picking him to win are you? Let's not change history here.

And the both way thing. Half true.

Usyk did something. Haney hasnt. Haney is literally a nobody. Remember when Crolla of all people was talking about how he could beat Lomachenko. If Lomachenko didnt fight Crolla was that a duck?

Haney hasnt even beaten anyone with a pulse or someone even on the level or Crolla. That's not an excuse why Lomachenko cant fight him. That's a fact.

In fact Lomachenko fans want this fight now because everyone who hates Lomachenko is picking this kid over anyone 126-135 to beat Lomachenko.

They give Haney a better chance than GRJ, LDC, Tank, Berchelt, ANYONE.

Let me ask you and you answer.

Do you think Floyd ducked young Spence and Thurman?

Because I heard rumors that's Spence beat Mayweather up in sparring. Is it true? You tell me.

Sparring is sparring but the fight never happened did it,m. You tell me. Was it a duck?