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  • #31
    Originally posted by denium View Post
    Loads of people. He wouldn't win a round against Fury and Wilder would put him in hospital.
    Fury would be the toughest matchup for him.... maybe Usyk as well.

    I think Ruiz and Wilder would be a great fight with back and forth action. Wilder has the power for sure but Ruiz showed he's no slouch in that department. A few guys put AJ down and couldn't finish him and he even came back and stopped them.

    Ortiz was so close to taking Wilder out.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by BangEM View Post
      LMAO. Apart from fast hands and perhaps head movement, what else is Ruiz above average at?

      The guy doesn’t even have much power, apart from volume. He was just lucky a perfect shot hit someone who was already concussed pre-fight in the temple. Now he’s a world beater, lol. The same boxer was in the ring with a guy that was done and out on his feet for 3 rds and couldn’t win decisively until the ref stopped it. Heck, AJ won at least one of those rds.

      Ruiz doesn’t move his feet and the only way he closes range is with his hand speed. Any boxer who can manipulate range would beat him easily.

      He’ll probably beat Wilder due to his chin. Wilder has no boxing skills and he’s going to be head hunting and that would play perfectly into Ruiz’s counter left hooks which Wilder is susceptible to. I don’t know about Fury. The height/reach and Fury’s rangy awkwardness would be a nightmare for him. But Fury is always open to counter left hooks and the two guys that knocked him down, apart from Wilder are short guys with quick hands. And Fury also struggles with fat pressure fighters. So it depends on the night to be honest.

      But I think Hunter, Rivas, and Whyte should beat him pretty easily. AJ will stop him in the rematch as well
      Anthony has great posturing and excellent positioning until an actual exchange is initiated. Once an exchange is initiated Josh tends to lose all sense of posture which more often than not causes him to be out of position to fully capitalize on openings. Since he's not in proper position to fire off the punches he's throwing he has to bastardize his powerline for accuracy enough to land at minimum which brings down the amount of kinetic energy he can transfer to his opponent. Given his powerline is disconnected and his kinematic chains are impure causing him to waste most of the energy he creates not only does he tire early and easily, but he struggles more often than not to achieve step off one punch drops. And since he tires easily and early on one has to wonder how well AJ is going to fare against any opponent who can set a pace and doesn't share any problems with posturing, positioning, powerline, or stamina.

      Posture, Andy has posture. I know, nuanced for a casual like yerself, but, there's a reason the men step and pose around the ring before they start throwing leather. Andy is better than Joshua ever was as it.

      Doesn't mean Josh can't beat him in the rematch or that Josh needs to learn posturing to beat him. Just that Anthony had better not try to exchange combos with Andy because Andy will **** him up for it.

      I swear y'all....there should be an education thread. A stickied education thread.

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      • #33
        Ruiz is just a fat burrito salesman who happens to box on the side. He isnt anything great. Everyone in the top 20 but AJ can beat him.

        AJ was just extremely overrated because he had a protected career, maintained his 0 long enough to fool everyone. AJ's biggest accomplishment was going life and death, being dropped by a 41 year old who had prime losses to Purrity, Sanders and Brewster.

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        • #34
          jesus.. Did anyone wonder in Feb' 90 if Buster Douglas was the best HW at the time?

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          • #35
            Personally I think Wilder would knock him out. The only reason Tyson survived... barely survived, was because he had great defensive head movement. I don't think Ruiz can do the same.

            Also this thread seem a little premature. Let's see him get through Joshua 2, and either Fury or Wilder.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post
              Posture, Andy has posture. I know, nuanced for a casual like yerself, but, there's a reason the men step and pose around the ring before they start throwing leather. Andy is better than Joshua ever was as it.

              Doesn't mean Josh can't beat him in the rematch or that Josh needs to learn posturing to beat him. Just that Anthony had better not try to exchange combos with Andy because Andy will **** him up for it.

              I swear y'all....there should be an education thread. A stickied education thread.
              Has anyone ever told you that you come across as being mentally unstable? I don't know anyone who writes so much tripe with no head or tail. You just ramble on and on without making any sense whatsoever.

              Then again, you're a yank and it's always expected until proven otherwise. LMAO.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by BangEM View Post
                Has anyone ever told you that you come across as being mentally unstable? I don't know anyone who writes so much tripe with no head or tail. You just ramble on and on without making any sense whatsoever.

                Then again, you're a yank and it's always expected until proven otherwise. LMAO.
                What part about Joshua got knocked out because he can't posture in an exchange as well as Andy did you not understand?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
                  I just didn’t think the question needed to be asked because there’s multiple guys who probably beat him. It’d be like saying who beats Danny Garcia at welterweight? It’s your thread though so fair enough.

                  I do like Ruiz though, I don’t wanna sound like I’m hating on the guy. He’s a decent fighter but he has his limitations. I doubt he wins the rematch against AJ but if he does, the obvious fight to make would be Ruiz vs the Fury-Wilder rematch. I actually hope he does beat AJ again cause we all know AJ ain’t gonna fight Wilder or Fury anytime soon.
                  Boxing is the theater of the unexpected. I respect your opinion and it will be interesting to see if Ruiz can upset the apple cart.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by el*** View Post
                    Ruiz is just a fat burrito salesman who happens to box on the side. He isnt anything great. Everyone in the top 20 but AJ can beat him.

                    AJ was just extremely overrated because he had a protected career, maintained his 0 long enough to fool everyone. AJ's biggest accomplishment was going life and death, being dropped by a 41 year old who had prime losses to Purrity, Sanders and Brewster.
                    35 old Wladimir would still be top man in division.

                    And, yeah beating 41 old Klitschko is bigger than anything Wilder has done.

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                    • #40
                      The rematch is the acid test for Andy Ruiz Junior 'The first fight was no fluke, but? Being able to beat Anthony Joshua twice, will solidify his ability'.

                      Anthony Joshua has already beaten many elite fighters back to back, we all know his level etc

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