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  • ShaneMosleySr
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    #31
    Me: Whyte is guilty of using PEDs because he failed a drug test.

    You: Whyte isn’t guilty despite failing a drug test because it doesn’t make sense that he would take that drug!

    Yup, pretty much.


    Originally posted by kafkod
    Whyte tested positive for micro-low traces of 2 dianabol metabolites.

    Dianobol is a muscle building anabolic steroid. You have to do at least one full cycle of dianabol to get any benefit from it, and that takes 1 - 6 weeks

    You also need to stack it with some kind of of synthetic testosterone, or it will leave you feeling exhausted and weak, because dianabol completely suppresses the natural production of testosterone.



    There were no issues with Whyte's testosterone levels, or that would also have been flagged by both VADA and UKAD.

    I'm telling you now fellas, there is no way an experienced professional athlete like Whyte would even think about using a steroid like dianabol a couple of days before a fight - because it would give him no benefit at all - while knowing he was being randomly tested by both VADA and UKAD.

    Do I think that Rivas would have been cleared to fight if the situation had been reversed?

    If he'd taken the same steps as Whyte - appeal against the finding and request an immediate expedited hearing with an adjudicating panel, which he woud have had the right to do - yes, I absolutely do believe that Rivas would have also been cleared to fight.

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    • j.razor
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      #32
      Originally posted by Luilun
      most idiots believe the thread but those who have been in gyms know fighters don’t leave their gloves laying around they put them in their gym bag . We also know other fighters don’t go into other fighters gym bags
      Meanwhile you have no proof about T.B.E. but you would talk the shet "0 to 100 .. real quick"! FOH!



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      • kafkod
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        #33
        Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
        Me: Whyte is guilty of using PEDs because he failed a drug test.

        You: Whyte isn’t guilty despite failing a drug test because it doesn’t make sense that he would take that drug!

        Yup, pretty much.

        You: Whyte is guilty of using PEDs because he failed a drug test.

        Me: Not everybody who fails a PED test is guilty of PED abuse.

        Louis Ortiz failed a PED test before his fight with Wilder and was cleared after an investigation because of insufficient evidence.

        Avni Yilderim tested positive for 2 anabolic steroids and was cleared after an investigation found that contamination from a legal substance was the probable cause.

        Wait till the result of the investigation into Whyte's case is announced.

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        • j.razor
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          #34
          Originally posted by thesmokingman
          He is the top of the cheating table lmao. He's been doing TRT for decades, hell his sugar daddy owned a chain of them.
          You wish

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          • ShaneMosleySr
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            #35
            Did I say he was guilty of PED abuse? LOL

            Luis Ortiz wasn’t cleared. He wasn’t allowed to fight. The fight was cancelled because of his failed drug test. He was suspended by one of ABC organizations from their ratings for a year afterwards.

            And while I don’t agree with the WBC investigation of Yilderim, they at least took a month to investigate, made the findings public and didn’t allow him into the ring against an opponent who didn’t know he failed a drug test.

            Originally posted by kafkod
            You: Whyte is guilty of using PEDs because he failed a drug test.

            Me: Not everybody who fails a PED test is guilty of PED abuse.

            Louis Ortiz failed a PED test before his fight with Wilder and was cleared after an investigation because of insufficient evidence.

            Avni Yilderim tested positive for 2 anabolic steroids and was cleared after an investigation found that contamination from a legal substance was the probable cause.

            Wait till the result of the investigation into Whyte's case is announced.

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            • TonyGe
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              #36
              Originally posted by O Prophet
              Margarito, Miller, Canelo, etc all get caught with either loaded gloves or PEDS. In Canelo’s case it could have been accidental. But all these incidences become huge stories in boxing and all these guys get trashed by the public.

              Meanwhile you have this ngga by the name of Tyson gypsy queen Fury removing the padding from all his gloves AND taking PEDs, yet he magically gets a pass for both. People wanna brush it under the rug and make this guy a celebrity and letting him do WWE when this guy should be getting a lifetime ban.

              If this isn’t privilege I don’t know what is.
              I doubt very much Fury removed the padding from his gloves to spar. It makes no sense unless he wants do damage to his hands.

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                #37
                Originally posted by j.razor
                You wish
                Why even bother replying moron? Facts... and you wish? smh

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by thesmokingman
                  Why even bother replying moron? Facts... and you wish? smh
                  You aint got shet on T.B.E.

                  Facts dumbass

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                  • MulaKO
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    Whyte tested positive for micro-low traces of 2 dianabol metabolites.

                    Dianobol is a muscle building anabolic steroid. You have to do at least one full cycle of dianabol to get any benefit from it, and that takes 1 - 6 weeks

                    You also need to stack it with some kind of of synthetic testosterone, or it will leave you feeling exhausted and weak, because dianabol completely suppresses the natural production of testosterone.



                    There were no issues with Whyte's testosterone levels, or that would also have been flagged by both VADA and UKAD.

                    I'm telling you now fellas, there is no way an experienced professional athlete like Whyte would even think about using a steroid like dianabol a couple of days before a fight - because it would give him no benefit at all - while knowing he was being randomly tested by both VADA and UKAD.

                    Do I think that Rivas would have been cleared to fight if the situation had been reversed?

                    If he'd taken the same steps as Whyte - appeal against the finding and request an immediate expedited hearing with an adjudicating panel, which he woud have had the right to do - yes, I absolutely do believe that Rivas would have also been cleared to fight.
                    Sorry but I find that very hard to believe
                    Not in your backyard or Whyte’s I should say
                    The boys would probably fughin riot

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                    • kafkod
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by MulaKO
                      Sorry but I find that very hard to believe
                      Not in your backyard or Whyte’s I should say
                      The boys would probably fughin riot
                      You find what hard to believe?

                      If you're talking about the dianabol, I posted a link to back up I said. It's simply ludicrous to think that a fighter would be doing a steroid cycle so close to a fight. It would have been detected by the VADA tests. And even if he wasn't being tested, he would get no benefit from it.

                      If you're talking about Rivas getting the same treatment as Whyte ... remember, the whole appeal process is supposed to be confidential. It only came out because somebody leaked the info to Thomas Hauser.

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