Comments Thread For: Arum: We'd Take Up Hearn On Beterbiev-Bivol On ESPN

[MONGOOSE66]

No, it does not mean "NOTHING", it actually means quite a bit. If drugs meant nothing, they wouldn't have been banned. PEDs make you perform better. It will not turn you into Ali, but it might help you land a punch, which would send you opponent to a death bed. A punch which would have been avoided had you not had the energy to fight like a bunny on prozac in the 12th round and what you did because of PEDs. Sometimes, a split second or a tiny increase in force is what can make all the difference in an already risky sport. Drugs increase the risk of injury to your opponent, they create an uneven playing field even though they don't turn Gabe Rosado into Marvin Hagler. Does this really need to be explained?

Take all the illegal meds u want then step in there with a CLEAN pro and see if it helps. Lol. If someone wants to take chemicals thats fine. Let everyone do it. Let me burst your innocent bubble and say 90-% of ALL athletes take drugs to enhance. Some just know how to stay below the radar.

[alexjust]

Take all the illegal meds u want then step in there with a CLEAN pro and see if it helps. Lol. If someone wants to take chemicals thats fine. Let everyone do it. Let me burst your innocent bubble and say 90-% of ALL athletes take drugs to enhance. Some just know how to stay below the radar.

Dirty pro vs CLEAN pro - tell me who is likely to get the edge.

Dirty non-pro vs CLEAN pro - will survive extra round Every little helps.

And if PEDs don't help, then why, in your own words, everyone was on them in 90s? Placebo, I'm sure.

What point are you trying to make? That PEDs make no difference? Then why bother taking them?

Or that its ok to take them? Then don't call it a sport, call it WWE - those mofos are glowing green of PEDs. And die at 55.

[Squ□redCircle34]

I don't hate Canelo, he is an excellent fighter with diva tendencies and 118-110 ace up his sleeve. Canelo is absolutely doing something right, his strategy of aging GGG almost succeeded. I want to see him fight a HOF or an A+ level fighter in his prime. What boxing fan wouldn't? But for some reason 35 y.o. seems like a number that lures Canelo to take risks. Otherwise a fighter in his prime can be even 32 and really good, but then he can't be on that A+ level - see Jacobs.

Its a mathematical formula really: prime+potential HOF= no Canelo fight.

Past prime + aging + potential HOF= Canelo fight.

�� this is how you create resume full of the best names.

Call it cherrypicking or calculated risks but it doesn’t matter!

Who else has his resume is the question!?

Canelo is the best fighter on the planet but Andrade is right there too!

Hopefully they fight and see who’s the best!

Andrade is the boogeyman of 154-160 and 168, no one wants to fight him!

Andrade is a Prime A+ possible HOF fighter and if Canelo beats him will you drop the excuses?

There’s not a lot of Prime A+ HOF level fighters around, not even Beterbiev is that or the guys at 168!

It seems to me you won’t get give Canelo credit unless he beats a heavyweight so that lets me know all i need about where you stand in your bias against him!

Like I said what other middleweight is going up 2 divisions?

Canelo is the man and you must get used to it with his only threats being light heavyweights and Andrade!

[The Big Dunn]

Great fight but if I am Bivol I would be very careful fighting on ESPN. IMO the network and TR wanted Gvodzyk to win and you could hear it in the guys doing the fight. The fact that Gvodzyk was ahead on 2 cards at the time of the TKO is very disconcerting.

[_Rexy_]

Great fight but if I am Bivol I would be very careful fighting on ESPN. IMO the network and TR wanted Gvodzyk to win and you could hear it in the guys doing the fight. The fact that Gvodzyk was ahead on 2 cards at the time of the TKO is very disconcerting.

ehhh it was a pretty close fight, Dunn. I had Beterbiev ahead, but there were a lot of close rounds. I haven't seen the official cards, but if they had Gvozdyk ahead by 1 I'm not mad at that. The KD's in the 10th would have taken care of it.

Unless they were wide? lol

[The Big Dunn]

ehhh it was a pretty close fight, Dunn. I had Beterbiev ahead, but there were a lot of close rounds. I haven't seen the official cards, but if they had Gvozdyk ahead by 1 I'm not mad at that. The KD's in the 10th would have taken care of it.

Unless they were wide? lol

f I recall it was 2 pts on both cards but don't quote me. I couldn't believe they had Gvodzyk ahead. I was sure Gvodzyk needed a KO to win that fight. But I do wear glasses so maybe I ain't seeing sh-t correctly lol.

[soul_survivor]

If Canelo wins he is running from Beterbiev.

If Kovalev wins, I can see that fight happening.

Beterbiev v Bivol is also a good fight and I think Bivol might pull it off.

[MONGOOSE66]

Dirty pro vs CLEAN pro - tell me who is likely to get the edge.

Dirty non-pro vs CLEAN pro - will survive extra round Every little helps.

And if PEDs don't help, then why, in your own words, everyone was on them in 90s? Placebo, I'm sure.

What point are you trying to make? That PEDs make no difference? Then why bother taking them?

Or that its ok to take them? Then don't call it a sport, call it WWE - those mofos are glowing green of PEDs. And die at 55.

What you are oblivious too is the fact people who test CLEAN are still dirty. They just hire people who KNOW how to hide it.
If they REALLY want to to keep boxing clean ( they dont). They should hold there blood forever and retest it in the future when tests become more advanced. It wont happen. You make that rule permanent in boxing and ill be all in for testing.