Canelo humiliated Golovkin

[SUBZER0ED]

Yes but most boxing fans don’t know how to contextualize testing dates.

Canelo had nano traces 78 days away. If Canelo really needed to cheat, they would’ve stipulated VADA terms at the 45 day mark.

GGG vs Rolls started at a mere 27 days before their fight, not different than the vs Lemeiux fight. Canelo has always been A side. Any insecurity with performance they could’ve lagged the testing dates. Point is GGG vs Roll didn’t have to report results at the 78th day toward their fight. How many days in between 78 days to 27 days to a fight? GGG or Rolls could’ve been on something in that time but we’d never know because the testing started 27 days to their fight!

Most athletes in any sport use PEDS or get caught during the week of their event or the day of their event. Not more than 80 days out.

"Contextualize", you say! Those "nano traces" were enough to find Alvarez guilty of PED use, for which he served a measly six month suspension. Canelo and Golovkin were both enrolled in VADA, but you suggest a foul occurred because they tested Canelo too soon? Why wouldn't they have tested Golovkin at the same time?

[strykr619]

Canelo humiliated Golovkin and I'm not just talking about how he basically beat him twice. Who doesn't remember the good old days, when everyone went on about Canelo being scared of fighting Golovkin? Well, look how the tide has changed.

Canelo moved up and fought Golovkin, which no one expected him to have the balls to do. He beat Golovkin twice and even made him cry and leave the ring post-fight, and then proceeded to move up in weight, something Golovkin never manned up to do. Canelo defeated Jacobs and will soon fight Saunders, the two guys that fans wanted Golovkin to fight for so long. Canelo beat Jacobs convincingly, while Golovkin had to settle with gift decisions against both Jacobs and Derevyachenko.

Everyone shamed Canelo, but he has in a few years done all of the things that everyone expected of Golovkin, which Golovkin never had the courage to do. Now Canelo is fighting Kovalev, at 175 lb. Golovkin should be ashamed of himself. At the end of the day, it turned out that Canelo was more of a man than Golovkin ever was.

LOL Whut? You do know Canelo is exposed as a drug cheat because of GGG. His legacy is forever tarnished. Looks at Shane Mosley now. Great fighter but has the PED label on his whole career.

You can harp on all you want but Canelo is a drug cheat with unfinished business with GGG. Your entitled to your OPINION but what I've stated are facts.

[Thuglife Nelo]

"Contextualize", you say! Those "nano traces" were enough to find Alvarez guilty of PED use, for which he served a measly six month suspension. Canelo and Golovkin were both enrolled in VADA, but you suggest a foul occurred because they tested Canelo too soon? Why wouldn't they have tested Golovkin at the same time?

Again, you are confused...

And it always strikes me that fans of our sport don’t question consistency.

If Canelo vs GGG had 27 days out testing like GGG vs Rolls, would that have been better than more than 80 days out of sample collections?

What scenario helps a fighter “cheat” like any other sport, banned substances closer to the fight or furthest from the fight/event?

And lastly, those nano traces were half of what Francisco Vargas had when he fought Orlando Salido, whom had samples collected 45 days away. Guess what!? He still fought and nobody in industry brought this up when Canelo had a nano trace. Truth is industry writers that loved GGG didn’t want this exposed since it would clear Canelo.

[SUBZER0ED]

Again, you are confused...

And it always strikes me that fans of our sport don’t question consistency.

If Canelo vs GGG had 27 days out testing like GGG vs Rolls, would that have been better than more than 80 days out of sample collections?

What scenario helps a fighter “cheat” like any other sport, banned substances closer to the fight or furthest from the fight/event?

And lastly, those nano traces were half of what Francisco Vargas had when he fought Orlando Salido, whom had samples collected 45 days away. Guess what!? He still fought and nobody in industry brought this up when Canelo had a nano trace. Truth is industry writers that loved GGG didn’t want this exposed since it would clear Canelo.

Nah, I'm not confused, son. You would like to somehow justify a man getting caught cheating by saying the test sample was taken before he had a chance to clear it from his system. Yet his opponent was subject to the exact test at the same time. What a silly argument! You can point to another case & lack of similar consequences which can be debated, but it doesn't change the violation that did get scrutinized justifiably.

[aboutfkntime]

LOL Whut? You do know Canelo is exposed as a drug cheat because of GGG. His legacy is forever tarnished. Looks at Shane Mosley now. Great fighter but has the PED label on his whole career.

You can harp on all you want but Canelo is a drug cheat with unfinished business with GGG. Your entitled to your OPINION but what I've stated are facts.

cool story bro


" I said in many interviews he had a chance to erase the issues that he had in May. I believe that he erased the issues that he had in May. What a great champion he is. He’s the champion today. "

Golovkin's Coach: Canelo Vindicated Himself For Positive Tests

" I think he’s vindicated. I think that he fought the kind of fight that his fans and the fans in general expected. He fought the kind of fight that he talked about. He made a mistake and we have to believe that he did it, he was checked twelve to fourteen times for this fight and they were all negative. They put on the kind of fight that clean good fighters put on, giving us the thrills in every round. "


FACT: Canelo IMMEDIATELY put on a BETTER performance in a fight where we KNOW he was clean

the other two factors that create a HUGE canyon of doubt...

* 4x INDEPENDENT experts ALL stated that the positive test result was most likely caused by accidental contamination... INCLUDING VADA loooool

* the clean (voluntary) hair-follicle test


if Canelo never tests positive for the remainder of his career, that issue will be completely forgotten... it has been largely forgotten already

Canelo's career has steam-rolled over Golovkin

[aboutfkntime]

a earlier comment suggested that Canelo did not humiliate Golovkin, he humiliated Golovkin's fans...

which is true

Golovkin fans took 4 losses in 2 fights... which is next-level DUMB

1) " Canelo would never dare fight Golovkin "...
2) " Canelo will get KTFO "...
3) " Canelo would never dare rematch Golovkin "...
4) " Canelo will get KTFO "...

next-level DUMB


but Canelo ALSO humiliated Golovkin, and there is no way to spin it


Golovkin ran around for SIX YEARS saying he would fight "anyone from 154-168"... BUT, when shlt got real... he killed THREE HUGE fights over weight LMAO

you cannot make that shlt up

Canelo did not talk about it... he just did it

embarrasing

and what about all of that " businessman " rubbish... ?

loooool... now EVERYONE can see who is the businessman

and what about that " stand and fight like a Mexican " rubbish ? loooool

man, that shlt backfired REAL bad... even worse than the "anyone from 154-168" stuff backfired... and even worse than the "businessman" stuff backfired...

even forgetting about all the golov-rubbish that backfired... Canelos career has steamrolled Golovkins... Canelo showed the rookie how things are done, he proved that he is cut from a different cloth than Golovkin

embarrasing

[Mr. 29K]

Triple She needs to go back to Kawktarzan and sell goat milk.

[mathed]

Actually, Clenela humiliated herself by failing drug tests.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Nah, I'm not confused, son. You would like to somehow justify a man getting caught cheating by saying the test sample was taken before he had a chance to clear it from his system. Yet his opponent was subject to the exact test at the same time. What a silly argument! You can point to another case & lack of similar consequences which can be debated, but it doesn't change the violation that did get scrutinized justifiably.

I don’t need to justify it! It’s already been justified! It’s VERY common for guys like you to never talk about Francisco Vargas whom was under Conte at the time during that Clenbuterol fiasco, which, just like USADA, was exonerated from No Fault / Negligence, whom had double of Canelo’s amounts and closer to his fight. It was VADA whom handled the testing. The commissions get the consultating - green light - from the testing agency should the fight go or elsewhere why are the testing agencies involved anyways!?

Lance Pugmire and Dan Rafael specifically wrote about Vargas when his Clen findings happened. They just somehow didn’t reach into it for the Canelo GGG fight because they didn’t want fans to realize there was No Fault, which there wasn’t!

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[ShoulderRoll]

One thing of note that Canelo did that Golovkin never did was get busted for PED use. And as for him moving up to 175 to face a faded, older Kovalev, who has lost 3 of his last 7 fights, let's just see how that goes.

Let's see how it goes. But by signing to fight the much bigger Kovalev he has done more to challenge himself than Golovkin ever has.

Also Canelo says he ate tainted Mexican meat. That's a believable explanation. If true he is not a deliberate, purposeful PED cheat.

The fight hasn't happened yet. Don't you think you should wait for the outcome to proclaim Canelo is daring to be great? It might turn out that he dared to be ******.

Signing for a fight at 175 on its own is way more than anything Golovkin ever did to back up his team's boast of "anyone from 154 to 168."