Rigondeaux > Lomachenko

[ShawnTaylor]

First of all, yeah, I gotta give it to Lomachenko, he's a good boxer. No doubt about that. But I honestly think Rigondeaux should be considered the superior fighter.

Lomachenko defeated him, but that was due to a massive size advantage. Lomachenko himself admitted that after their fight. Basically, that fight means nothing in a P4P context. And if we do compare them in a P4P context, I think Rigondeaux is easily superior. The reasons are many.

1: Rigondeaux schooled Donaire in his prime, which was a far superior win to anything Lomachenko has accomplished as a professional.
2: Lomachenko lost to Salido. He did redeem himself after that, but come on, the very thought of Rigondeaux losing to such a low-level fighter is unthinkable. Rigondeaux is more consistent than Lomachenko.
3: Rigondeaux and Lomachenko are both technicians, but Lomachenko is kinda featherfisted, while Rigondeaux also happens to be one of the most hard-hitting fighters in his division. Much more dangerous.
4: Lomachenko's got old faster. Rigondeaux has been old and past it for years, while Lomachenko is a young man who already is stepping out of his prime at significant speed. He looked horrible against Campbell and Pedraza, who both took him through 12 rounds.

Again, I respect Lomachenko, but I don't respect the fact that so many consider him a superior fighter to Rigondeaux. When you take all the facts into consideration, Rigondeaux simply appears to, P4P, be the superior fighter, who has been unfairly pushed aside due to stepping up and losing against a far bigger and far younger opponent.

[Lopez_Boxing]

Nope........

[_Rexy_]

If only these two would fight so we could put to rest the debate on which is the better fighter...

[ShawnTaylor]

If only these two would fight so we could put to rest the debate on which is the better fighter...

They have already fought, but at a weight which proved to be far too much of an advantage in Lomachenko's favour, which makes the win irrelevant. Lomachenko himself admitted this. They should have fought at a lower weight to make it a fair contest and the fight should have happened earlier, Rigondeaux was an old man by the time they fought.

[YoungManRumble]

They have already fought, but at a weight which proved to be far too much of an advantage in Lomachenko's favour, which makes the win irrelevant. Lomachenko himself admitted this. They should have fought at a lower weight to make it a fair contest and the fight should have happened earlier, Rigondeaux was an old man by the time they fought.

Did you not just say that Rigo aged better though ?

[ShawnTaylor]

Did you not just say that Rigo aged better though ?

He does, but that doesn't change the fact that he was far past it when he fought Lomachenko, who already looks past it at age 31.

[chrisJS]

Haha. I smell an alt. Probably one of the guys who said size won’t matter and how easy it will be for Rigo.

They don’t compare. Different levels. Even in their fight, Loma didn’t use any physical advantages it was purely a skill match and it was a big difference in class.

[chrisJS]

He does, but that doesn't change the fact that he was far past it when he fought Lomachenko, who already looks past it at age 31.

Lomachenko is the worlds consensus #1 boxer still in every pound for pound list. Rigo has never been in the top 5. Now, is Loma past his own best? Yes possibly or he’s further than his best weight (hey he’s up 11 lbs whereas we saw Rigo can’t even go up 4 lbs let alone the 8 he failed miserably in) but that’s like saying, Ali was past his best at 31 whereas Wilder was prime at 31. One is a bum and the other is Ali.

[ShawnTaylor]

Lomachenko is the worlds consensus #1 boxer still in every pound for pound list. Rigo has never been in the top 5. Now, is Loma past his own best? Yes possibly or he’s further than his best weight (hey he’s up 11 lbs whereas we saw Rigo can’t even go up 4 lbs let alone the 8 he failed miserably in) but that’s like saying, Ali was past his best at 31 whereas Wilder was prime at 31. One is a bum and the other is Ali.

I think you should be careful with forcing the word "consensus" upon your own opinion. Some lists do NOT have Lomachenko at the top. Also, keep in mind that Donaire was the P4P #3, according to Ring Magazine, when he fought Rigondeaux.

Also, you claim that it was purely a match of skills when Rigondeaux and Lomachenko fought... Did you seriously miss the size advantage between the two? Lomachenko himself disagrees with you here. He doesn't consider this a great win at all due to the size advantage he had.

[RetroSpeed05]

Not only was Loma bigger but he was much faster and in hand and especially foot speed. Size advantage played one factor but one was so much more athletically gifted. Rigo looked like a statue.

Its not like a little guy was using his skills while the bigger guy walked him down. Rigo couldn't do anything and had to resort to holding and bending below the waist as "defense".

Loma is superior in every way the size advantage makes it just unfair.

One thing i noticed about some clowns who talk bad about Loma notice how they bring up that he gets bruised in some fight or he "struggled" while winning almost every round on the score cards. But Rigo in his supposed prime got dropped left and right by absolute bums and they treated him like a god p4p fighter. Imagine Loma getting dropped in almost every fight what they would say.