Usyk: I want Wilder next

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  • champion4ever
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    #51
    Originally posted by BangEM
    LMAO. This is laughable and you definitely need to try your luck with stand up comedy since it seems you might have a talent in that field, lol.

    No bum makes the 2nd highest purse in boxing history at age 29 in 6 years as a pro. Even Mayweather who revolutionised earning power in boxing didn't get there until his late 30s. You know who is a bum? The guy who's 35 and is about to make $3million fighting a next old bum in Nov, in his 11th year as a pro. The same guy who didn't see a million until he turned 33. Boxing is prize fighting and only the best get the ultimate prize, lool.

    Josh is at a stage where he doesn't even need a belt to be a star. And oh, after cleaning up at least $100million in Dec - win or lose - he still has 2 fights left on his deal where he would make at least £20million ($25million), while Wilder is stuck on fighting bums for $3million. Levels. LMAO.

    Josh released a video of his fight against Povetkin on his channel about 4-5 days ago and he already has over a million views. Between, you need to have your own image rights to be able to do that and that's something Wilder doesn't have because his image rights are owned by TV networks. So, I doubt he's lost half of his fan base. Wilder on the other hand barely has fans, apart from internet trolls because if he did - he won't be having problems selling tickets. Or would he? People are even pissed off Josh isn't fighting in their countries...I doubt anyone cares about where Wilder is fighting, lol.

    LMAO, you omitted 2019. So what happened in 2019 and why did Wilder run with those chicken legs? And in 2018, why didn't Wilder send a real deal and not a verbal twitter deal with 24hrs ultimatum? Regardless, it's water under the bridge - Wilder needs to stick to fighting bums on his level like he has done throughout his career since he's a bum. Water always find its level. He needs to stay out of the way and let the big boys keep making big bread. LMAO.

    AJ vs Fury is the fight we all want to see. 2 Brits going at it in the biggest fight in British boxing history.
    Had AJ stayed in the U.K. And stuck with his fighting in the Euro bum of the month club, he would still have his title belts and undefeated record today.

    However, no he wasn't satisfied. He became envious of Deontay Wilder and tried to become Deontay Wilder by challenging stiffer competition, while crossing the pond in a futile attempt to fight Deontay Wilder.

    However, he forgot one thing; He is not Deontay Wilder. "The Bronze Bomber" has both the punching power and balls to compete with the high risk, dangerous and undefeated opponents where as Anthony Joshua does not.

    Also, what boxing fan in their right God damned mind counts and cares about another fighter's money and net worth? You are not getting any of it. That shit is so lame.

    All the fuck real boxing fans care about is good fights and on that end; Wilder is delivering. He has fights lined up with Luis Ortiz, Tyson Fury and Andy Ruiz.

    One couldn't give a good damn about what he earns from those fights because no one really gives a God damn fuck! Well at least I don't

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      #52
      Originally posted by chrisJS
      You don't think Usyk's career to date is "credible"? Glowacki was a respected, unbeaten champion who'd dethroned a very good champion himself. Briedis, another respected, unbeaten champion, Gassiev, a respected, unbeaten unified champion and Usyk beat them all in their back yards in impressive fashion. He won 12-0 over Usyk in what was considered 50-50. Some posters said he was going to duck that one because he'd lose. He won fighter of the year for this.

      That's not "credible"? Your really going to criticize him for a bum last minute replacement opponent in a vastly new division after a year off through injury? Maybe (like most here) your reasons are deeper than boxing and in that case, I get it.
      Cruiser accomplishments mean nada at HW. Adamek had a nice run at cruiser too, wins over Cunningham, Bell, Banks etc. Wound up going life & death with Arreola.

      Briedis-Usyk was really close & Briedis just arguably lost to an completely unknown fighter.

      Glowacki was put on his ass by a guy with just 6 fights in a razor thin victory.

      Gassiev was the favorite because everybody (including myself) thought he'd he the bigger man but it was Usyk that was bigger. That's due to inaccuracies from boxrec & people still think Gassiev is bigger.


      Plus you also had Bellew & Vlasov break into the top 5-10 range, I can't take that division seriously.

      Put it this way, 2/3 of his top opponents arguably lost to complete unknowns (recently) and his 3rd best win was a 1 dimensional 24 year old with almost no amateur background.

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        #53
        Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
        Wilder already tried to dismiss Usyk. We'll see how this plays out. I would like to see Usyk in there with a HW contender first though. See what he's got at HW.
        Cuz you don't want to see usuck get his ass whooped that's why.

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          #54
          Originally posted by alexnation
          He will float like a butterfly around Wilder and sting him all night long. Usyk by UD
          Stop it. D.Wilder by K.O.

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            #55
            Originally posted by chrisJS
            Usyk is an excellent boxer. The most recent undisputed champion in the sport having won all four titles in three unbeaten champions backyards in addition to winning the most difficult multi-competitor tournament of the last 15-20 years in the WBSS. (The cruiser divisions was stronger and deeper than the 168 of 2009, the 168 of 2018, the 140 & 118 of this year being the other tournaments)

            He’s the current fighter of the year and one of only two boxers the last 15 years to be undisputed. He’s also ranked in every pound for pound top five.

            Not sure why he’s already turned into a “bum” because a certain dumbass fan base are insecure and don’t like where he comes from. He’s also far more skilled and talented than Wilder. Not sure why that’s crazy talk? He’s on a far higher level. He’s much smaller, yes, but he’s much better. He’d probably win IMO. I said a year ago I think he would damn near shut Joshua out too. Just a different level of talent which can sometimes offset size. The only reason he’d lose at Heavyweight is size. Even Fury, the only heavyweight I respect a little bit could only win based on size.
            I bet you would be too pvssy to bet on usuck vs D.Wilder so stop your lying ass up chris "the b!tch".

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              #56
              Originally posted by chrisJS
              You don't think Usyk's career to date is "credible"? Glowacki was a respected, unbeaten champion who'd dethroned a very good champion himself. Briedis, another respected, unbeaten champion, Gassiev, a respected, unbeaten unified champion and Usyk beat them all in their back yards in impressive fashion. He won 12-0 over Usyk in what was considered 50-50. Some posters said he was going to duck that one because he'd lose. He won fighter of the year for this.

              That's not "credible"? Your really going to criticize him for a bum last minute replacement opponent in a vastly new division after a year off through injury? Maybe (like most here) your reasons are deeper than boxing and in that case, I get it.
              NO! Only to YOU it is cuz YOU like low leveled boxers cuz you can't fight for shet & need to look up to the weak boxers

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                #57
                No win situation for Wilder here with his haters.

                If he fights him next after Ortiz, he ducked Fury.

                If he fights Fury, he ducked Usyk.

                If he fights Usyk and KOes him then Usyk was too small or not that good to begin with.

                Let Usyk proves himself against a credible HW opponent before we jump on his bandwagon during his HW campaign

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by El_Mero
                  These the same guys that are yelling Crawford hasnt done anything to EARN a fight with Spence! Crawford, who cleaned out '35, became undisputed at '40 and has a belt at '47....
                  OF COURSE USYK is a credible opponent, not just for Wilder, but for EVERYONE at HW!
                  Nah, just for you & chris

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by club fighter
                    People really giving Usyk the big drum beat right now and I just don't see it. On top of that, the media is talking about him getting automatic title shots. Yea I think he has the ability to outbox Wilder in what would probably be an ugly, boring, defensive performance where he ran all night from getting his head taken off, but do we rally need that kind of stink in the heavy division?

                    He's got the talent & skills, but I question if he'll have the power to hurt the big guys or the chin to take their shots, like Wilder's.

                    Personally I think he'll be a bust, but we'll see once he fights a live body.
                    He can't outbox D.Wilder for 12 rounds. I would bet on D.Wilder by K.O. or decision.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by BangEM
                      This is laughable, lol. When did Wilder become a big draw to be making demands to people who earn more than him? And you have the audacity to talk about Wilder telling a boxer to sign to his promoter for him to fight him, so they can fix the fight like they have done with the other bums he has fought, no? If AJ and Fury had told boxers to sign with their promoters before fighting them, all hell will break loose. But Wilder, who isn't a draw, with a *****ty resume populated by bums and old men can say that and you're making it the premise of your argument - hilarious. You Wilder fans, man. LMAO.

                      If Ruiz beats AJ in the rematch - I'd be in utter shock. I'm privy to things you and your ilk don't know about the first fight. And I doubt Ruiz would make it to the 10th rd tbh. AJ already made his money and he's going to earn 30x what Wilder is making in his next bum of the month fight. I believe he's great where's he at - Wilder should be the one who should be worried. We saw how he cried with a long emotional/hateful rant after AJ lost to Ruiz on June 1st. That's how he'll cry for the rest of his career fighting bums. AJ has the Fury option and the Usyk option before he rides into sunset.
                      Aj BEEN ducking D.Wilder. Let it go before you witness D.Wilder laying Aj out

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