Why is no on giving ggg credit for still being a top mw at 37?

[satiev1]

because he arguably lost to derevyanchenko, bro

sergey is a top mw and last time i checked he won a ud. Roy jones jr was getting koed by guys levels below sergey at 35. Leonard lost to bums late 30's.

[satiev1]

Let's see where canelo is at 37.

[Pac=Duran]

In any other sport an athlete that competes at the highest level we give them praise. In soccer no one talks about who's better prime for prime. We always mention how good a players is over several years of his career. Consistency matters. Roy jones jr at 35 was getting koed cold by journeyman. Leonard was done late 30's. Ggg after being ducked for 10 years still competes at the highest level at 37. It's extremely rare for a fighter who's had several amateur fights to still compete as a top pro at 37.

You guys can say i'm making excuses but facts are facts. The all time greats get a pass for losing to bums but ggg at 37 still has to ko everyone, can't have tough fights and he's been exposed? LET ME GUESS. GGG AT 40 IS STILL IN HIS PRIME RIGHT? Wtf is that?

Hes the most irrationally hated boxer on the board. Thesedays astroturfing takes ace at all levels on all boards/social media for companies to protect their product as well btw.

[aboutfkntime]

Golovkin fought soft touches for so long, and used those soft touches to build his hype up.

Daniel Geale was having issues with still making the weight, but his feather-fisted ass was still boxing Golovkin up, almost at will. 154lb Gabriel Rosado was holding his own, boxing/moving, until his skin failed him as usual. Could add Ouma to the mix too.

Golovkin fights Kell Brook (when he was top 3 at 147lbs), and Brook boxes him 50/50 until the eye socket went. Then he fights Daniel Jacobs (after Jacobs gets over the nerves) and almost loses that fight (preference is whatever, but I believe I scored it 7-5 Jacobs). And then he takes on "155lb king" Alvarez, basically losing both fights.

And now, he steps in with Derevyanchenko (decorated amateur, I think 20-1 in WSOB, fast-tracked as a pro, basically boxed Jacobs 50/50) and puts on a performance that reads like he **** the bed and got beat in a close fight.

When faced with guys who could actually fight (and outside of Alvarez, none of the names seem HOF bound, tbh), Golovkin has found himself barely hanging on or getting beat.

Usually with the same struggles; front foot heavy, issues with the offense/defense transition, can't really fight going backwards, etc.

And that's when the careful matchmaking becomes clear.

Now, word apparently is that Golovkin was ill for the fight; still, if lines were laid out today for fights against Canelo, Saunders, Andrade, Charlo, and Derevyanchenko, it wouldn't shock me, and shouldn't shock most folks tbh, if Golovkin was the underdog in all 5 of those fights.

He's showing his level now; maybe time has taken a bit from him, but he's a top 10 middleweight who likely would've always had real issues with guys who can fight with some dimensions to them.

I have been saying that for YEARS

because that has been clearly obvious... FOR YEARS !!

every fighter from 140-160 would have cut off one of his fingers for an opportunity to fight Cotto... he was BIGGER than Canelo at that point...

why the fcuk did Mr " anyone from 154-168 " totally refuse to negotiate on weight with the 153lb SUPERSTAR?... despite offering to defend his title against Rosado at 158...?

I know why...

because Cotto was knocking out the SAME fools Golovkin was knocking out

YES, at catchweight... but that is exactly where Golovkin would have fought him

he didn't want that smoke... simply would not take the risk

[jimisawesome]

That's irrelevant. Canelo waited 2 years till he aged. Canelo turned pro at 15 and wasnt' ducked like ggg was. GGG also has been boxing since he was 10. 400 amateur fights take a toll once you go pro. At 37 you lose reflexes and speed. Human biology. If age didn't matter boxers would compete till they're 80.

Canelo waited 2 years so GGG could actually be a draw and could make some money.

[Scipio2009]

I have been saying that for YEARS

because that has been clearly obvious... FOR YEARS !!

every fighter from 140-160 would have cut off one of his fingers for an opportunity to fight Cotto... he was BIGGER than Canelo at that point...

why the fcuk did Mr " anyone from 154-168 " totally refuse to negotiate on weight with the 153lb SUPERSTAR?... despite offering to defend his title against Rosado at 158...?

I know why...

because Cotto was knocking out the SAME fools Golovkin was knocking out

YES, at catchweight... but that is exactly where Golovkin would have fought him

he didn't want that smoke... simply would not take the risk

Because Golovkin has been fighting at 165lbs day-of (basically 160lbs) since he was 20 years old. Outside of heavyweight (and I doubt even there, tbh), you can't point to a fighter, outside of Hopkins, who has held a weight for anywhere near that long (at 30 years old, Floyd was basically maxed out at 151lbs or so, so holding to 147 wasn't an issue, with Floyd spitting on any talk of fighting at 140lbs again).

Like a gymnast, Golovkin basically needed a year-round camp to keep his weight in check enough to make that cut to close out the camp.

Cotto was a smaller guy, but he proved that he could punch all the way up, to the point that he was still a big hitter at 154lbs, with respectable power at 160lbs.

Golovkin wasn't going compromise himself further in any type of boil down, to take on a guy who could legitamately fight his ass off and still crack at 154lbs.

Floyd had good power at 147lbs, and likely registered as having ok power at 154, so Golovkin would've been cool with taking the money for that fight, but it's self preservation with that man and his camp

[strykr619]

I have been saying that for YEARS

because that has been clearly obvious... FOR YEARS !!

every fighter from 140-160 would have cut off one of his fingers for an opportunity to fight Cotto... he was BIGGER than Canelo at that point...

why the fcuk did Mr " anyone from 154-168 " totally refuse to negotiate on weight with the 153lb SUPERSTAR?... despite offering to defend his title against Rosado at 158...?

I know why...

because Cotto was knocking out the SAME fools Golovkin was knocking out

YES, at catchweight... but that is exactly where Golovkin would have fought him

he didn't want that smoke... simply would not take the risk

Excuse me? Cotto never wanted GGG. Fk outta here with that man. Your usually a good poster but stop acting like GGG was avoiding Canelo.

[GelfSara]

Racism and ethnic tribalism, primarily from Latinos and African-Americans. In Europe and Asia the view of Golovkin is far more positive.

[aboutfkntime]

Excuse me? Cotto never wanted GGG. Fk outta here with that man. Your usually a good poster but stop acting like GGG was avoiding Canelo.

nobody mentioned Canelo

FACT: when Mr " anyone from 154-168 " totally refused to negotiate on weight with the 153lb SUPERSTAR Cotto... he removed himself from consideration... AND HE KNEW IT!

keypoint = HE KNEW IT... and so did everyone else

1) refused to negotiate on weight with the 153lb SUPERSTAR Cotto
2) had no problem defending his title at 158 against the NO-HOPER Rosado
3) then a few months after totally refusing to negotiate on weight with Cotto and Canelo... Golovkin stated that he is willing and able to fight at 154, but nobody will step up...



Golovkin 100% passed on that fight

[F l i c k e r]

Let's see where canelo is at 37.

fat with a ginger beard, eating tapas on a beach in mexico with a silk shirt and a beer in hand.