Comments Thread For: DiBella: Derevyanchenko Fought GGG Like A F***ing Warrior!

[theface07]

It was fascinating – and fun – to see someone finally take it to Golovkin without giving a damn. No stepping back, no chess match, no fear of his power; just slugging it out. It's only a shame he couldn't have met the prime Golovkin from 2012-2015 who had everyone scared shitless.

Why? It was a close as hell fight at this point in Golovkin's career. Had they met in GGG's prime, Derevyanchenko would've been too green and Golovkin likely would've jumped on him after the KD and KO'd him.

[ShoulderRoll]

DiBella always gets overexcited about everything and can't stop himself from throwing F- bombs left and right.

He is comical.

[PittyPat]

Why? It was a close as hell fight at this point in Golovkin's career. Had they met in GGG's prime, Derevyanchenko would've been too green and Golovkin likely would've jumped on him after the KD and KO'd him.

I meant if the current Derevyanchenko would've faced 2012-2015 Golovkin. Just a hypothetical match-up.

[Robi13]

I'm a Golovkin fan but I was very aware of how much of a risk Derevyanchenko was. He's younger, fresher and his only loss came via a close decision against Jacobs who Golovkin won a close decision off so there was no reason to think GGG was going to steamroll this guy like a lot of deluded fans expected. Given I went into the fight as a GGG fan but with no intention of "gifting" him any rounds, here's my scorecard:

RD 1: 10-8 G
RD 2: 10-9 G
RD 3: 10-9 D
RD 4: 10-9 D
RD 5: 10-9 D
RD 6: 10-9 G
RD 7: 10-10
RD 8: 10-9 D
RD 9: 10-9 D
RD 10: 10-9 D
RD 11: 10-9 G
RD 12: 10-9 G

TOTAL: 114-114 DRAW

Your math is off

[Timur78]

It was fascinating – and fun – to see someone finally take it to Golovkin without giving a damn. No stepping back, no chess match, no fear of his power; just slugging it out. It's only a shame he couldn't have met the prime Golovkin from 2012-2015 who had everyone scared shitless.

I don't think it's as simple as you explain. Derev wasn't just slugging it out.
He was very technical in his approach, and did things that other fighters could not implement against GGG.
He always moved and never let GGG set up his punches. Didn't get caught on the ropes.
Always fired back with combos (very effectively) after GGG tagged him.
He backed GGG up. Nobody does that!

Plus he has this nice transition from evading punches into throwing his own.
That's just his thing.

[PittyPat]

I don't think it's as simple as you explain. Derev wasn't just slugging it out.
He was very technical in his approach, and did things that other fighters could not implement against GGG.
He always moved and never let GGG set up his punches. Didn't get caught on the ropes.
Always fired back with combos (very effectively) after GGG tagged him.
He backed GGG up. Nobody does that!

Plus he has this nice transition from evading punches into throwing his own.
That's just his thing.

I absolutely agree, especially the part in bold. When I said "just slugging it out", I meant it as props to Derevyanchenko's apparent lack of fear, but it likely came across as an oversimplification because many fighters use fear as their motivation in the ring (scared shitless; throw leather in response).

He did indeed execute a lot of nuanced technical things in there (whether it was his gameplan or a response to the knockdown) which IMO earned him a clear win. I won't call it a robbery because again, it's an oversimplification, but I strongly believe the wrong man won that fight.

All the while, Golovkin just hasn't looked the same after Jacobs...

[4truth]

I'm a Golovkin fan but I was very aware of how much of a risk Derevyanchenko was. He's younger, fresher and his only loss came via a close decision against Jacobs who Golovkin won a close decision off so there was no reason to think GGG was going to steamroll this guy like a lot of deluded fans expected. Given I went into the fight as a GGG fan but with no intention of "gifting" him any rounds, here's my scorecard:

RD 1: 10-8 G
RD 2: 10-9 G
RD 3: 10-9 D
RD 4: 10-9 D
RD 5: 10-9 D
RD 6: 10-9 G
RD 7: 10-10
RD 8: 10-9 D
RD 9: 10-9 D
RD 10: 10-9 D
RD 11: 10-9 G
RD 12: 10-9 G

TOTAL: 114-114 DRAW

Fair enough card but it's been awhile since I've seen a judge give an even round. For whatever reason that seems to be frowned on.

[Timur78]

I absolutely agree, especially the part in bold. When I said "just slugging it out", I meant it as props to Derevyanchenko's apparent lack of fear, but it likely came across as an oversimplification because many fighters use fear as their motivation in the ring (scared shitless; throw leather in response).

He did indeed execute a lot of nuanced technical things in there (whether it was his gameplan or a response to the knockdown) which IMO earned him a clear win. I won't call it a robbery because again, it's an oversimplification, but I strongly believe the wrong man won that fight.

All the while, Golovkin just hasn't looked the same after Jacobs...

Yes, I agree. GGG got the knock down but from middle to late rounds Derev acclimatized and
was landing hard punches with great consistency. So I felt like whoever is looking the best towards the
end of the fight should have the benefit of the doubt in the decision. Which was the Technician for me.
But that thinking goes against the orthodox round by round scoring...
Anyway, good to see another Aussie on the forum!
Judging from your cover photo, I think.

[PittyPat]

Anyway, good to see another Aussie on the forum!
Judging from your cover photo, I think.

No Aussie here. I was just a supporter of Katsidis back in the day.

Although I was an honorary Aussie when I went to see him fight live twice, in 2010 and 2011.

[Timur78]

No Aussie here. I was just a supporter of Katsidis back in the day.

Although I was an honorary Aussie when I went to see him fight live twice, in 2010 and 2011.

Ah, right. Katsidis is a warrior. Very entertaining style!
Australia has no prospects at the moment, but I do like Tim Tszyu's silky boxing.
It doesn't look like he inherited the same power as his father had.