Give me a FK'n break! GGG won clearly

[chrisJS]

Very close fight that could go either way. 6-6 or 7-5 SD. Nothing “clear” about it.

Not sure why people can’t acknowledge it was a close fight and enjoy the fact it was a good fight. Very good even. Instead casuals gotta cry because they are too emotional about dudes they’ve never met.

[Boxing_1013]

I thought SD was the better man...but I had it 6-6 to GGG on my card...tough fight to score and I feel SD was a bit unfortunate to not get a clear W...GGG landed a few big shots in a few rounds to give him a chance and make it close.

I do agree that all-time GGG is clearly in the conversation as an ATG at MW...some of his candidacy is aided by the fact that he has fought his entire career (am and pro) at MW...but he certainly was very dominant for a while in his era...I think the comp. that he ran through was better than most, but in any event he has a lot of quality clear dominant wins...stacking up his wins vs past greats, they really aren't too dissimilar...his legacy fights (so far - and after that fight vs SD GGG's run may be over) were the Canelo fights and most greats only have 2 or 3 fights vs other greats...how you view GGG all-time hinges somewhat on how you viewed him, at the tail end of his career, against a prime Canelo, I think anyway.

Not to mention that just looking at footage from most fighters from 40+ years ago, I think it is a bit silly to think they could compete in modern eras...athletes imo just get bigger/stronger/faster etc...it is fair though to say that those guys from the past would have better training regimens etc if they fought in more modern eras though.

But yeah besides Hagler I don't really see all-time who is GGG's main competition for the MW GOAT crown tbh...and as great as Marvelous was, he was basically 1-1-1 in his 3 fights vs other greats...and had a couple losses to less than great fighters mixed in with some impressive wins over quality fighters...some would say Monzon or Hopkins are in the running for MW GOAT as well...but I've watched footage of Monzon and I don't see that one...B-Hop would certainly be in the convo I think.

There are guys who fought at MW (McClellan comes to mind) who would have given even a prime GGG a great fight...but yeah all-time I don't really feasibly see 3 or so guys who would be put above him at MW...just my 2 cents.

[Gate_Keeper]

wtf ?

of course there is... they do not sit there counting jabs on their fingers, they evaluate the round based on the 4 official criteria and score accordingly

sometimes they watch one fighter more than the other, what can I say

* clean HARD punching

which is why compubox is totally irrelevant

the judges use a professional scoring system, and they only value/score effective punches... compubox is just a tally of activity that is often inaccurate

activity is not official scoring criteria

after the Golovkin/Canelo rematch:
" but, all of the fans think... "

after the Golovkin/Derevy fight:
" fcuk the fans, the judges think... "

it all sounds a bit convenient

the fighters know... there is a reason why Golovkin said it was Sergiys night, not his night

I'm curious, when or for which fight have you seen these sections on the judges official scorecard? I have never seen them. Furthermore, if these sections were on a scorecard and then assigned a number, then you'd have to average each number according a particular weight to see who won the round. I wouldn't mind scoring according to this criteria as long as judges were doing this officially and i knew what weighted averages they were using.

You're other statements are in agreement with mine. I only score the clean effective punches, which includes jabs. I also don't place much meaning on compubox and do not score on activity, especially all the ineffective activity from SD for this fight.

Also I'm not sure about others but i thought the judges got it right in the rematch with GGG vs Canelo. In the first fight one judge had GGG losing 10 rounds. Such examples do merit comparison to other scores to demonstrate that they're too much of an outlier to be accepted as true actually suggest corruption like with Conlan in this case of AIBA.

[aboutfkntime]

I'm curious, when or for which fight have you seen these sections on the judges official scorecard? I have never seen them. Furthermore, if these sections were on a scorecard and then assigned a number, then you'd have to average each number according a particular weight to see who won the round. I wouldn't mind scoring according to this criteria as long as judges were doing this officially and i knew what weighted averages they were using.

You're other statements are in agreement with mine. I only score the clean effective punches, which includes jabs. I also don't place much meaning on compubox and do not score on activity, especially all the ineffective activity from SD for this fight.

Also I'm not sure about others but i thought the judges got it right in the rematch with GGG vs Canelo. In the first fight one judge had GGG losing 10 rounds. Such examples do merit comparison to other scores to demonstrate that they're too much of an outlier to be accepted as true actually suggest corruption like with Conlan in this case of AIBA.

the judges score every round based on who they think won according to the official criteria