GGG's 164 physique vs 160 - ask yourself, which looks more ideal!

[Thuglife Nelo]

Yeah. Can't see much sense in the 164 for that, myself. Could have just done it at the full 168... Golovkin comes to ring 170+ anyway... less Rolls camp were saying he'd struggle to make MW, in which case why not just pick a C list MW?

For years people have said GGG isn't big. That's all subjective, and when GGG's not fighting 3 times a year, he looks like any elite boxer fighting 2 times a year. Look at the size comparison of GGG here compared to everyone else. He's a big guy. His upper torso is massive. Look at the Lemieux fight. DAZN just uploaded if for free. Both GGG and Lemieux, even though to me, GGG looked bigger, I'll submit to saying that if GGG was compressed to Lemieux's height keeping the mass then they're still the same weight. BJS, Lemieux, GGG, are all really Super Middleweights.

Again, he's draining at 160. Why!?! Why is that excusable for years when all other boxers tried differently? When GGG finally fought out from 160, because of his long layoff from the Canelo rematch, it was just more comfortable for 164, and against a Rolls?

[Thuglife Nelo]

That's kyphosis. Most boxers have to some degree due to amount of time they spend in the guard position. Golovkin's looks pretty severe though.

Golovkin gets all his power from his back muscles. Look at the muscle mass on GGG's back compared to Rolls. Keep in mind Rolls was a 168 fighter, correct? Rolls don't look drained but GGG does? GGG's torso is like a military cargo plane ready for war. The best version of GGG is at 168.

[TonyGe]

Jacobs who dwarfs Golivkin only just recently moved to 168. I really don't get this obsession with Golivkin moving up. He makes weight and says he feels good at 160 has excellent stamina and punch resistance. If he he was weight drained it would show up in one or all of those categories.

[Zaroku]

Pics aren't similar.

ggg needs a training bra

[Citizen Koba]

For years people have said GGG isn't big. That's all subjective, and when GGG's not fighting 3 times a year, he looks like any elite boxer fighting 2 times a year. Look at the size comparison of GGG here compared to everyone else. He's a big guy. His upper torso is massive. Look at the Lemieux fight. DAZN just uploaded if for free. Both GGG and Lemieux, even though to me, GGG looked bigger, I'll submit to saying that if GGG was compressed to Lemieux's height keeping the mass then they're still the same weight. BJS, Lemieux, GGG, are all really Super Middleweights.

Again, he's draining at 160. Why!?! Why is that excusable for years when all other boxers tried differently? When GGG finally fought out from 160, because of his long layoff from the Canelo rematch, it was just more comfortable for 164, and against a Rolls?

You been pushing the agenda that GGG would be better at 168 since before you was widdit, man. Honestly I don't know, maybe he would be more comfortable at 168 but he'd also have to contend with some much bigger guys. Far as I'm concerned if the dude says he can comfortably make 160 even at 37 years old I'm happy to just take him at his word. Not quite sure why it matters.. dude wants to stay at 160 there's nothing wrong with that so long as he can make it, though if there's is a good fight for him at SMW I'd like to see him take it.

And I'm not seeing what you're saying about his size... dude's deep rather than broad chested, but I'm not really seeing him as any more than average as a MW nor do his fight weight tend to bear that out - such as we have 'em at least. Started off fairly small at 167/8 against Proksa I think then climbed through 170ish (Macklin) to about 172/3 which is about normal for a rehydrated MW - certainly there's bigger guys out there, though they're all younger, of course.

[Thuglife Nelo]

You been pushing the agenda that GGG would be better at 168 since before you was widdit, man. Honestly I don't know, maybe he would be more comfortable at 168 but he'd also have to contend with some much bigger guys. Far as I'm concerned if the dude says he can comfortably make 160 even at 37 years old I'm happy to just take him at his word. Not quite sure why it matters.. dude wants to stay at 160 there's nothing wrong with that so long as he can make it, though if there's is a good fight for him at SMW I'd like to see him take it.

And I'm not seeing what you're saying about his size... dude's deep rather than broad chested, but I'm not really seeing him as any more than average as a MW nor do his fight weight tend to bear that out - such as we have 'em at least. Started off fairly small at 167/8 against Proksa I think then climbed through 170ish (Macklin) to about 172/3 which is about normal for a rehydrated MW - certainly there's bigger guys out there, though they're all younger, of course.

Don't be naive dude. Proksa compared to GGG looked like Jaime Munguia vs Sadam Ali.

And again, GGG was fighting 3 times a year on HBO. That gives any boxer the opportunity to be a gym rat and grind WHILE MAKING a GREAT PAY! What boxer wouldn't be motivated to have gotten GGG purses as such? Meaning, we didn't get to see GGG's walk around weight in those years like other boxer whom too grind hard but only fight 2 times a year.

HBO unofficial scales was a scam. It's ''unofficial!'' Legally it's not held accountable because there's no official regulation to prove it, and it doesn't make sense how some fighters disclose and others don't. What what do know in boxing is the AVERAGE weight depletion for all fighters is 12-15lbs of water shed. Guys like JCC or Rios vs Alvarado shamed the sport doing 23+lbs of water like UFC fighters when they were on HBO... again ''HBO'' go figure...

And lastly, you know very well that when fighters move up in weights, they have the luxury protocol to acclimate at that weight and he/she will be on a plan to gain as much performance/weight while not overdoing it. You know it's all calibrated.

I think GGG could've already given us great fights at 168. I'm not buying this whole ''168 guys are bigger'' when GGG was bigger than Canelo. When Benavidez for years has been GGG's sparring partner and even picked GGG to beat Canelo... That's Benavidez knowing what GGG can do in the ring and in sparring. So enough with the GGG is small fallacy for 168. He would beat Plant and Dirrell. What isn't GGG allowed to fight behind the jab at 168 while being bigger and still use his defensive IQ in the ring?

The answer is because GGG is a protected fighter and is influenced to choose easy fights. That's the benefit of doubt I give GGG. I could be wrong, it may well be that it's GGG whom tells Loeffler and Abel what to have done.

aboutfkntime

[Gideon lock]

Which pic do you wank harder over is the actual question I'd like to ask you. You suspect man.

[Commie]

GGG needs to stop killing himself cutting weight he looks awful at the weigh-ins and is always high on weed together with Tom
He could handle Jacobs who weighed around 175

[boliodogs]

Jacobs who dwarfs Golivkin only just recently moved to 168. I really don't get this obsession with Golivkin moving up. He makes weight and says he feels good at 160 has excellent stamina and punch resistance. If he he was weight drained it would show up in one or all of those categories.

All true. GGG is the hardest punching middleweight with the best chin and excellent stamina and workrate. All proof of a well conditioned boxer fighting at a proper weight. TR is an extreme Canelo lover and GGG hater. You won't get any logic or common sense from him because he has none.

[boliodogs]

GGG needs to stop killing himself cutting weight he looks awful at the weigh-ins and is always high on weed together with Tom
He could handle Jacobs who weighed around 175

GGG
says he is very comfortable at middleweight and it's his natural best fighting weight. He says he makes 160 comfortably and easily. He weighed in for today's fight at a half pound under 160 and guys who are killing themselves to make weight come in right at the limit not a half pound under. You say he is killing himself and he says it's his best most comfortable weight so I would believe him over you.