Top Rank has no plan for Crawford to fight anybody but Spence

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  • KTFOKING
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    #61
    Originally posted by NachoMan
    Jesus, well then can you cite specific information from Mr. Coppinger that details Spence's contracted financial arrangement with regard to PPV and gate cut? Mr. Coppinger is a boxing writer for The Athletic. He is not a member of Errol Spence's management or legal teams, as far as I am aware. You may not be making things up, but you are simply deciding to believe uncorroborated information that supports your argument - like everybody else in the world.
    When did I say I got information from Spence's team? That was never once said by me. I also mentioned how no one will know for sure what a fighter makes, but you can get a good idea from what is being reported. But I see you just completely ignored the numbers the Spence/Garcia PPV generated and the live gate but still want to act like he only made 3M? What was Crawford's REPORTED purse from the commission report for Khan? We know he made 5-6M, but what was the actual figure given to the commission?

    If you think a guy who did 120k buys against Khan is making more than a guy averaging over 300k buys in his last two PPVs, then so be it. But...................

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    • NachoMan
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      #62
      Originally posted by KTFOKING
      When did I say I got information from Spence's team? That was never once said by me. I also mentioned how no one will know for sure what a fighter makes, but you can get a good idea from what is being reported. But I see you just completely ignored the numbers the Spence/Garcia PPV generated and the live gate but still want to act like he only made 3M? What was Crawford's REPORTED purse from the commission report for Khan? We know he made 5-6M, but what was the actual figure given to the commission?

      If you think a guy who did 120k buys against Khan is making more than a guy averaging over 300k buys in his last two PPVs, then so be it. But...................
      Ok, but your entire argument that Spence is earning substantially more from PPV and gate cuts (more than 300% even) is based on what specific information??? None. You are just guessing out your ass that he must NECESSARILY be making a killing off of these things when you actually don’t know anything at all about it. How do you know that he gets a cut of the gate receipts? What if he, in fact, is only entitled to 1% of PPV sales over a certain amount? You don’t know and neither does some random boxing writer, yet you insist with all your heart that you really do. We all choose our own facts. Bottom line, I hope, is that neither of us actually cares all that much about how much either guy is making. I want to see that fight tomorrow to find out once and for all who is the top man at WW. I feel certain that it’s Bud Crawford.
      Last edited by NachoMan; 10-03-2019, 06:49 PM.

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      • Sustanon
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        #63
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
        I'm listening to Arum say fighting Porter is a waste of time because it won't sell.

        The consensus before Spence-Porter was it wouldn't sell. They were wrong. Porter's stock has risen dramatically since the Spence fight.

        Fox has said they aren't looking to do Spence vs Crawford until 2021. So instead they're plan is to have Crawford fight nobody while Spence fights all the best in the division. But Arum is still saying the fight has to be 50-50.

        These dudes are running a scam at Top Rank. Trying to backdoor their way into all the work Spence/Fox/PBC has done and take half.

        The pity party is over. They ain't trying to fight nobody.

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        Arum doesnt care about everything but the money he will earn.

        He lost a great amount of money from Crawford VS Khan bout

        The great Old Snake strikes again!!

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        • KTFOKING
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          #64
          Originally posted by NachoMan
          Ok, but your entire argument that Spence is earning substantially more from PPV and gate cuts (more than 300% even) is based on what specific information??? None. You are just guessing out your ass that he must NECESSARILY be making a killing off of these things when you actually don’t know anything at all about it. How do you know that he gets a cut of the gate receipts? What if he, in fact, is only entitled to 1% of PPV sales over a certain amount? You don’t know and neither does some random boxing writer, yet you insist with all your heart that you really do. We all choose our own facts. Bottom line, I hope, is that neither of us actually cares all that much about how much either guy is making. I want to see that fight tomorrow to find out once and for all who is the top man at WW. I feel certain that it’s Bud Crawford.
          I never said how much of the PPV Spence is or is not getting. I presented you with facts. I laid out what the PPV did and how much gate revenue the fight generated. Then after doing so, I asked you if you thought he only made 3M.

          I then listed what the people in boxing are saying his guarantees are. You could believe what you want to believe. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just to think a guy who averaged over 300k PPV buys is making less than a guy who did 120k buys is…. Well, interesting to say the least.

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          • PRchamp
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            #65
            Fight isn’t happening anytime soon. I swear I hate being a fan of this sport or at this point i feel like it’s the board game monopoly where it’s just business.

            What cringeworthy is that ESPN has to make and film all this build for Bud’s fights. When in reality he’s lame as hell and his opponents will say “I have a chance” hahahaha Arum and ESPN telling us how Crawford’s opponent is dangerous hahahaha

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            • VonTrier
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              #66
              Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
              So Fox says the fight won't happen for 2 years and it's Top Ranks fault lol..
              Spence PPVs do 300k. Crawford PPVs do 100k. PBC has all the top WWs/SWWs. Top Rank has Crawford.

              If Top Rank really wants the fight they have to make some serious concessions. Crawford is still talking about a 50-50 split. Hopefully that's all for show.

              Dudes all want to place the blame at PBC's feet when their WWs are all fighting fellow top competition. They're all making money. Seems like Bob made Bud some promises he couldn't keep.
              Last edited by VonTrier; 10-03-2019, 09:56 PM.

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