So Demetrius Andrade's Next Opponent Has Been Revealed..

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  • andocom
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    #31
    Originally posted by Boxing1013
    Not sure if you read my post wrong or something...so I posted again for ya.

    1) hard to believe this guy is a mando...never heard of him...and Andrade has fought Walter, Akavov and Sulecki since he got the belt...you would think one of those non-elite fighters would suffice as his mando.

    2) as I said in my post, if a guy is fighting his mando, that can be his stay busy fight...but otherwise you shouldn't have top 5 guys fighting non top 10 opponents.
    At this point I'm not sure you understand what a mandatory is.

    Andrade has the WBO belt, Butler is the WBO's #1 ranked contender, according to WBO this is 1 fighting 2, what don't you understand here?

    You literally suggested the WBO should strip Andrade for taking the WBO's mandatory against their #1 ranked opponent.

    Complain all you want about some of these orgs rankings, you'll get no argument from me, but to say someone should be stripped by that org for fighting their mandatory is hilarious.

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    • Boxing_1013
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      #32
      Originally posted by andocom
      At this point I'm not sure you understand what a mandatory is.

      Andrade has the WBO belt, Butler is the WBO's #1 ranked contender, according to WBO this is 1 fighting 2, what don't you understand here?

      You literally suggested the WBO should strip Andrade for taking the WBO's mandatory against their #1 ranked opponent.

      Complain all you want about some of these orgs rankings, you'll get no argument from me, but to say someone should be stripped by that org for fighting their mandatory is hilarious.
      Dude read my original post again lol...you're looking for a fight where none really exists...maybe you've had a bad day or something, hope that goes better for ya

      To try to help ya out...I said top 5 guys/beltholders should get a pass for their mandos...since this is his mando, that obviously applies here.

      At the same time, as I said, it is hard to believe that this would be his mando, considering no one has ever heard of this guy, and of Andrade's last few opponents at 160, only Sulecki would be top 10.

      But if you want to keep arguing with yourself have it, my boy! lol
      Last edited by Boxing_1013; 10-03-2019, 08:21 PM.

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      • Boxing_1013
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        #33
        Originally posted by Boxing1013
        Top 5 in a division should have to face other top 10 guys or be stripped/ranked down imo...mandatories can be tune-ups for them since we know some guys on those lists are not top 10.
        Originally posted by andocom
        At this point I'm not sure you understand what a mandatory is.

        Andrade has the WBO belt, Butler is the WBO's #1 ranked contender, according to WBO this is 1 fighting 2, what don't you understand here?

        You literally suggested the WBO should strip Andrade for taking the WBO's mandatory against their #1 ranked opponent.

        Complain all you want about some of these orgs rankings, you'll get no argument from me, but to say someone should be stripped by that org for fighting their mandatory is hilarious.
        Check out the bold part again my friend, from my original post...maybe you didn't initially understand what that meant, but should be clear if you give it a second look.

        Perhaps before coming at someone else on here, you should get your facts straight

        Sincerely just trying to help ya out with that last bit of advice...never really seen you post on here so I assume you are a bit new...seems like you are having a bad day or something, looking for a fight lol...take it out on your boyfriend or something lol jk man just messing with ya

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        • andocom
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          #34
          Originally posted by Boxing1013
          Top 5 in a division should have to face other top 10 guys or be stripped/ranked down imo...mandatories can be tune-ups for them since we know some guys on those lists are not top 10.
          Sweet jesus, read again what you wrote, and think about it this time.

          Stripped or ranked down, the only person who can do this is the WBO, correct?

          The WBO has their ranking, Andrade is champ, Butler is #1 contender, according to their rankings, this is 1 fighting 2.

          You are suggesting the WBO mandatory, which is their #1 vs #2 be a tune up fight (ok so what if Andrade refuses, he gets stripped for refusing a tune up?) then he has to fight other top 5 people (according to who, not WBO obviously) or he gets stripped.

          Seriously, you can't be this thick, you're suggesting the WBO ignore its rankings and rely on the other orgs or strip their champ, even if he takes all their mandatories.

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          • Boxing_1013
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            #35
            Originally posted by Boxing1013
            Top 5 in a division should have to face other top 10 guys or be stripped/ranked down imo...mandatories can be tune-ups for them since we know some guys on those lists are not top 10.
            Originally posted by andocom
            Sweet jesus, read again what you wrote, and think about it this time.

            Stripped or ranked down, the only person who can do this is the WBO, correct?

            The WBO has their ranking, Andrade is champ, Butler is #1 contender, according to their rankings, this is 1 fighting 2.

            You are suggesting the WBO mandatory, which is their #1 vs #2 be a tune up fight (ok so what if Andrade refuses, he gets stripped for refusing a tune up?) then he has to fight other top 5 people (according to who, not WBO obviously) or he gets stripped.

            Seriously, you can't be this thick, you're suggesting the WBO ignore its rankings and rely on the other orgs or strip their champ, even if he takes all their mandatories.
            I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you man...if you don't understand what the bold part in my original post means, that is your issue my friend, not mine.

            I wouldn't think I would need to explain this part - but top 5 guys who face lower ranked guys, well those would be called 'tune-up's for those guys...so as I said in my original post, if your mando is not in the top 10 overall of a division, that top 5 guy/beltholder can get a pass there, as he has to face his mando per the rules of that sanctioning organization.

            This guy Butler is pretty clearly not top 10 overall at MW, no one has ever heard of the guy...but obviously is the number 1 challenger for the WBO...thus Andrade would obviously not get stripped in my scenario...insinuating that a guy is top 10 overall in a division, just because he is ranked highly by one of the 4 major sanctioning organizations, well you appear to be exposing yourself as someone who doesn't really know how those organizations operate/would appear to be a bit new to boxing.

            I would expect a decent man to admit he was wrong here, but you seem like you will continue to double down on your errors, so have fun with that!! Lol
            Last edited by Boxing_1013; 10-04-2019, 10:07 AM.

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            • MPDKSAB
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              #36
              The rumors floating around now are that Butler may not take this fight and that he may try to fight Murata instead for the WBA regular title.

              I said before & I'll say it again, it's hard even to get so called mandatories to fight him SMH.

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                #37
                Originally posted by MPDKSAB
                The rumors floating around now are that Butler may not take this fight and that he may try to fight Murata instead for the WBA regular title.

                I said before & I'll say it again, it's hard even to get so called mandatories to fight him SMH.
                - -Not enough $$$ in an Androgynous fight to pay a mandatory.

                Toilet paper level champ.

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                • Mammoth
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by MPDKSAB
                  The rumors floating around now are that Butler may not take this fight and that he may try to fight Murata instead for the WBA regular title.

                  I said before & I'll say it again, it's hard even to get so called mandatories to fight him SMH.
                  Doesn't Murata gotta fight Brant again?

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                  • Lance98
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                    #39
                    Andrade deserves better fights. A shame that GGG/canelo/saunders and other top MWs don't want anything to do with him because he has the potential to make them look very silly and below average. They can't call themselves the best when they have not go through guys who they haven't and wouldn't fight.

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                    • MPDKSAB
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Mammoth
                      Doesn't Murata gotta fight Brant again?
                      I heard that but I had also heard something about Zerafa being in line to fight Murata but then something happened with Horn, I believe he exercised his rematch clause.

                      But in regards directly to Murata & Brant I can't remember the last time a boxer fought the same opponent three times in a row. The last time that happened was probably decades ago, if it ever happened or maybe in the early stages of boxing.

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