I actually think PPVs are on the verge of death

[ShaneMosleySr]

PBC is the only one doing them now (ESPN only had one this year and it was a flop).

It seems like the trend is to ditch that model for the monthly app model. DAZN is the obvious example and ESPN seems more focused on their app than PPVs.

I think the only reason we’re still seeing PPVs with PBC is because Fox and Showtime are competing for fights and trying to outbid each other. The PPV becomes necessary to generate the revenue immediately. Neither can start an app, build subscribers and generate enough income to keep the other one at bay. I feel like if/when Showtime bows out of the game, Fox will release a monthly subscription boxing app as well and we won’t see PPVs anymore.

The monthly app model makes more financial sense anyway.

Let’s say Fox has a fight that sells a million $10 subscriptions and half those people remain for the entire year. That’s $65 million dollars in a year. To hit that number with PPVs at $75, you’d have to sell about 867,000 units in a year.

[Phenom]

UFC still do ppv on ESPN so does WWE Toprank doesn’t have a draw Loma and Crawford don't sell tickets unfortunately

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Quick math: ESPN+: 1,880,000 subscribers
DAZN: 586,667 subscribers globally, 158,400 US subscribers (Based on App revenue) https://t.co/OKXyj6vJWY

[dibzvincent143]

Ppvs will be alive again if another floyd, manny or oscar will be born... currently no one is at that level.

[lolpz]

Just because these PPV's aren't doing 1M buys doesn't mean PPV is dead.

Canelo, the biggest star in the sport, did 1M buys with Golovkin.

These FOX PPV's have been a big success. Please get your facts down.

[DARTH SILKWORMS]

Let’s say Fox has a fight that sells a million $10 subscriptions and half those people remain for the entire year. That’s $65 million dollars in a year. To hit that number with PPVs at $75, you’d have to sell about 867,000 units in a year.

Fox is doing four PPVs this year. The first two combined already did over 867,000 buys.

[ztrac79]

Feels like Spence Porter will do around 500k. Which is a win

[MeanestNiceGuy]

Just because these PPV's aren't doing 1M buys doesn't mean PPV is dead.

Canelo, the biggest star in the sport, did 1M buys with Golovkin.

These FOX PPV's have been a big success. Please get your facts down.

Thank you!

The same people that hated Floyd and dogged Manny's drawing power are now holding newer fighters to that same standard. Check that out, smh.

As you mentioned, just because a fight isn't selling 1M buys, doesn't necessarily mean it's a flop.

These guys are TOP business men and have been in the sport for decades....they know damn well these guys aren't gonna sell like Floyd and Manny used to.

With that said, every fighter's contract is set up differently when it comes to PPVs, and only EXPERIENCED boxing fans know this.

Some guys' selling points could be around 300k buys or more if they're expecting profits and son.

Again, these handlers have been in the game for YEARS and they know what they're talking about.

If we're going by the logic that everybody should be selling 1M buys, these companies would've been out of business long ago.

Now, everybody's a finance expert with the gift of hindsight nowadays while going on rants about subscriptions and such.

Man, I swear I hate boxing fans some days. Smh

[LetOutTheCage]

Sky are still doing here in the UK. Hearn has put some absolutely garbage events as PPV

[MeanestNiceGuy]

UFC still do ppv on ESPN so does WWE Toprank doesn’t have a draw Loma and Crawford don't sell tickets unfortunately

Exactly! We have idiots out here thinking they're covered with ALL of the fights, if they spend $99 a year for an app...not realizing the subtle PPVs being thrown in there.

I was so ready to watch a UFC fight on ESPN+ last month but was greeted with a $ and a "order now" option.

What I see is, a lot of these events are moving to streaming services...boxing, MMA, baseball, etc. Maybe cable companies are about to take a backseat to new age technology.