How do journeymen or “tomato cans” train

[Curtis Harper]

Don't know what they do, but, it's during their lunch breaks at whatever shltty 9-5er they're at.

[BLASTER1]

We should ask Triple Flop that

Go suck gingers balls your running low on Canelo cum.

[Pkety]

^lmao wut 😂😂😂

[GhostofDempsey]

A lot of it comes down to having a good trainer or coach. Often times they have some neighborhood well-meaning guy working a small gym training them. He can only take them so far, and once a fighter develops bad habits they are hard to break. The better trainers have to see something in you to spark their interest.

[Manboyeatme]

People are so quick to judge. It's not that they suck, they're actually pretty good at what they do, just it's very hard to be the very best at something. And with the way a lot of sports fans are, specifically boxing fans, they only believe the ones at the top to be "good" and if you're not good you "suck." Hell people on this forum still say the fighters at the very top suck.

Simply just ask yourself how hard it is to be the very best in the entire world at something.

[rob g]

I can’t speak on every boxer with a bad record, but I am good friends with a Pro that has a record of 0 Wins, 3 Losses, and 2 Draws. 0-3-2. When I first met him he was just 18. Had won the Florida golden gloves twice, looked super sharp in sparring. He was sparring with Shannon Briggs, Oliver McCall, Luis Ortiz, bunch of local pros. Always seemed to hold his own. Won every fight in the local south Florida circuit. I honestly thought the kid was gonna be a world champion. Used to always think I can’t wait for him to turn pro. I know he lost in the opening round of the National golden gloves by 1 point. He swore he was robbed. I believed it. 1 point in an amateur fight is close lol. He didn’t train super hard though. Would miss days in the gym often. Very talented but could barely do 5 Rounds in sparring. Caught up in the street life too as well. When he turned 21 he got a gig fighting at a strip club. King Of Diamonds. One of the most famous strip clubs in the world at the time. It was great for him. 3 rounds. Each round was only 1 minute lol. No one there stood a chance. He destroyed everybody lol. Actually became kinda popular through fighting there. No club fighter with no experience is gonna beat him in 3 1 minute rounds lol. That came to an end though when he got arrested and had to serve a year in prison. When he got out he turned pro almost immediately. No time to prepare. I think he took it way too fast. Probably should’ve done one final amateur fight to see where he’s at. He barely trained for the pro debut. He fought at 201 as an amateur. Weighed in like 255-260 or something for the fight. So exhausted he laid down and quit in the 2nd round. Picked up draws his next 2 fights, but couldn’t get a win. The club fighting and prison I think just took up too much valuable time. Plus still being involved in street ****. Lost again due to being exhausted. Then lost a close decision that I thought should’ve been a draw. When I first met the kid and saw him in there with Shannon Briggs and Oliver McCall and Luis Ortiz I never in a million years would’ve thought he was gonna go 0-3-2 in his first 5 pro fights. Talented. Didn’t train super hard though. Plus that wasted a lot of very valuable time. A bit mentally ill as well. For the last couple fights he had he barely trained. Wasn’t even really thinking about boxing, but he got a phone call saying hey you want $1,500 for a 4 Rounder? Couldn’t resist I guess. Although he didn’t train hard at all, when the bell rang the will to win was still there atleast. The last fight the guy was 5-1 and it was a close decision. I think it should’ve been a draw. Don’t know if he’ll fight again. Was hoping he’d pick up atleast 1 win.

[Pkety]

And for clarity I don’t mean they suck suck, because I’m well aware these people can beat most on this site, I’m just saying it’s interesting how they are DOMINATED in matches. You’d think it’d be kind of close but there’s boxers walking around with 30-0 records and then there’s these guys with like 2-50 lol.

[Lucky86]

I boxed at a gym in Canada that had pros while I was there one female was world champ. There were other pros there of the “ journey man “ caliber they still beat the **** out of me and made it look easy. Most seemed to have a personal training day job and would be in gym evenings to spar and train. A handful worked in the strip clubs downtown. But most trained pretty regularly and would be in pretty damn good shape.