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  • #11
    Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
    what grown up uses "doe" in sentence? Anyway,
    So the following sounds like a tirade of pathetic excuses? "However, I’m going to hold GGG to high standard. He’s a top 10 P4P guy. I know he’s been ducked but there are big tough fights available. I think he needs to go after a GUN in his next fight."
    That sounds like a valid point by Bread but won't get mentioned by some because it takes away from their Bread hates Canelo theme.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by SteveM View Post
      top ten p4p is subjective but I can't see Wilder and Fury in my top 10 - no frickin way. Lets make Fury and Wilder welterweights. As good as mover Fury is at HW he is no way near the boxer that Crawford is, or even Spence. So he's get out boxed at WW. If Fury can make Wilder swing and miss (nearly) all night long then I am damn sure that Bud and Spence can do that, even Thurman could make a welterweight Wilder miss all night long.

      Lets bring Gary Russell up to WW. Lets make him move 10% slower. There is no way a ww version of Wilder gets anywhere near a ww version of Gary Russell.
      I agree with you 100%. Tyson Fury's boxing skills stand out in the heavyweight division but they are mediocre compared to those of great boxers in lower weight classes.

      Deontay Wilder couldn't box his way out of a paper bag. He just happens to have unreal, fight ending power in his right hand.

      Neither of these two belong on a P4P list.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
        I agree with you 100%. Tyson Fury's boxing skills stand out in the heavyweight division but they are mediocre compared to those of great boxers in lower weight classes.

        Deontay Wilder couldn't box his way out of a paper bag. He just happens to have unreal, fight ending power in his right hand.

        Neither of these two belong on a P4P list.
        Agreed, to slow and unskillful in comparison to lower categories.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
          what grown up uses "doe" in sentence? Anyway,
          So the following sounds like a tirade of pathetic excuses? "However, I’m going to hold GGG to high standard. He’s a top 10 P4P guy. I know he’s been ducked but there are big tough fights available. I think he needs to go after a GUN in his next fight."
          It’s used to describe/relate to the average casual fan.

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          • #15
            Bwahahaha people are starting to catch on to breadman Edwards... is this the beginning of the end for his “great boxing mind” narrative? Thread lightly mr Edwards... your time is coming sooner than I thought it would! Bwahahaha

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            • #16
              Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
              That sounds like a valid point by Bread but won't get mentioned by some because it takes away from their Bread hates Canelo theme.
              Exactly, if they acknowledge that bread is objective, then they'd have to also admit that it's credible to think that Canelo cheated on purpose and that he's entitled. Accepting those points seem to be very tough for his fans to do.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
                Bwahahaha people are starting to catch on to breadman Edwards... is this the beginning of the end for his “great boxing mind” narrative? Thread lightly mr Edwards... your time is coming sooner than I thought it would! Bwahahaha
                what's truly laughable is you thinking that the same 7 Canelo fans who cry about bread not being in love with Canelo the way that they are, actually have the power to impact his career or life. It's clear that he knows more about boxing the the 7 Canelo groupies combined.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
                  It’s used to describe/relate to the average casual fan.
                  actually, I think it's a word used by juvenile minded groupies who try to make a point but more often than not fail miserably.

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                  • #19
                    As far as Canelo cheating, the facts are that he tested positive for trace amounts of clenbuterol that were consistent with eating tainted meat.

                    His detractors have no proof that he was deliberately cheating. It could very well have been accidental as he claims.

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                    • #20
                      Alvarez is a drug cheat and heavyweights don’t belong in P4P ratings unless they do something astronomical.

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