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  • #11
    Originally posted by dibzvincent143 View Post
    And spence is contented on his side of the street as well... i haven’t heard for once from spence that he actually wants the fight now... not even when crawford talked to him face to face..
    For the fight to happen two sides must push for it.. not the “he’s on the other side of the street” BS EXCUSE

    Arum helped oscar and floyd become superstars.. yes they elevated their names when they left but that’s because Oscar was just naturally charismastic, entertaining in the ring and good looking for the masses.. while Floyd simply just had the personality to be a good villain..

    Crawford just have neither of those attributes to become a star.

    Arum had no problem making pac a superstar because he just had the style and story to be one.
    The difference is that there are 2 WW Champions on Spence's side of the street, and one of them is a box office LEGEND! Spence just fought Mikey (another one who left TR) in front of 47,000 people in AT&T Stadium! When opportunities like that are available, you're not worried about what's going on at Top Rank or ESPN!

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Clubber Pac View Post
      This is the problem, Crawford is content making money and not fighting anybody, his side has zero leverage at 147 pounds, it would be extremely difficult for Crawford to get 40% from Manny OR Spence.

      Crawford is a wonderful fighter who has not fought anyone and has nobody in his stable to fight, his career is going to be defined by Arum's inability to elevate his career, he needs to pull a Floyd, an oscar, just leave, don't sign any more extensions!
      Wrong. Wilder needs Fury and Fury is TR/Arum while Wilder is Haymon.

      Arum already said "if we can make Fury Wilder II we can make Crawford Spence"

      Get with it boy

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
        The difference is that there are 2 WW Champions on Spence's side of the street, and one of them is a box office LEGEND! Spence just fought Mikey (another one who left TR) in front of 47,000 people in AT&T Stadium! When opportunities like that are available, you're not worried about what's going on at Top Rank or ESPN!
        So you admit Spence also isn't worried about his career from a historical perspective as he is PASSING on a PRIME 3 division, former lineal JWW champion, just because he can fight lesser competition in-house. And 40 year old Pacman is lesser competition than Crawford today.

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        • #14
          Haymon is killing the Crawford fight, keeps Davis from Russell, Thurman from Spence, Ortiz from a 6 million pay day and I won't even mention Charlo, the list goes on and on. Seems to me that Haymon is the actual fight killer.



          Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
          Crawford wouldn’t speculate as to whether he thinks that’ll actually happen.

          “I can’t guess,” Crawford said. “I would’ve guessed that I would’ve fought Pacquiao two years ago and I didn’t. So, you’ve just gotta let things happen the way they’re gonna happen. Either it is, or it ain’t. Those things is out of my hands and out of my reach. I just sit back and focus on the things that’s in front of me right now, and that’s it.”

          I wish someone would ask Crawford his feelings on the fact that his promoter, Bob Arum, publicly stated that he "killed" the Pacquiao fight! Imagine if Eddie Hearn publicly stated that he "killed" Joshua vs. Wilder or Andrade vs. Canelo! Imagine Lou Dibella saying I "killed" Tank vs. Farmer! Some fighters are very talented, and wait their whole lives for an opportunity to fight a legend like Pacquiao, and then for your own promoter to say he "killed" that opportunity for you, you would have to feel some type of way!

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          • #15
            Just another excuse for Spence to continue ducking Crawford.

            Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
            The difference is that there are 2 WW Champions on Spence's side of the street, and one of them is a box office LEGEND! Spence just fought Mikey (another one who left TR) in front of 47,000 people in AT&T Stadium! When opportunities like that are available, you're not worried about what's going on at Top Rank or ESPN!

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            • #16
              Originally posted by hmc87 View Post
              So you admit Spence also isn't worried about his career from a historical perspective as he is PASSING on a PRIME 3 division, former lineal JWW champion, just because he can fight lesser competition in-house. And 40 year old Pacman is lesser competition than Crawford today.
              Porter and Pacquiao are both WW Champions just like Crawford, with the exception that they've faced much stiffer competition at WW (not JWW) than Crawford! Bud made his bed when he re-signed to the same promoter that robbed him of his chance to fight Pacquiao, even though Bud played a role too (Pac needs to come to 140) in that never happening! If I was advising Spence, I would tell him to fight Porter and Pacquiao first! If Pacquiao loses that strap, take it from whoever has it! Now if Pacquiao don't want that work (or whoever the WBA Super Champ is), then Crawford can come and get it! You don't turn down an offer to fight Pacquiao, especially when Jerry Jones is all in! That's just ******!

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              • #17
                Why is it always...the PBC's fighters telling fans who they don't need to fight? The 100's of excuses always come from the same side and varying from absurdity to out right fabrication.[/B]

                Tank Davis won't fight Gary Russell-Same side of the fake street.

                Thurman refused to fight Errol Spence- Same side of the fake street.

                Danny refused to fight Errol Spence said "go fight Crawford 1st"- Same side of the fake street.

                Charlo hasn't fought anyone at 160 and yet he was gifted a belt.

                Ortiz won't fight AJ for 6 million but will rematch for a possible 3.

                Wilder won't fight AJ for more then he will make in his entire career combined.

                I could go on and on but you get the point.

                There is a very distinct pattern and if you don't see it, it's because you don't want to. The networks see it and they are starting to say no thanks, not in our interest and as soon as the fans realize what's happening the game is over.
                Last edited by factsarenice; 09-25-2019, 01:21 PM.

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                • #18
                  That is just wishful thinking on Crawford's part. If Porter wins then that makes Crawford the best welterweight in the world because clearly he is better than Porter at least to my eyes. But Porter is not even money with Spence. He is a 10 to 1 underdog to Spence and I believe he will KO Porter and prove to be the best at 147 including Crawford.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Clubber Pac View Post
                    This is the problem, Crawford is content making money and not fighting anybody, his side has zero leverage at 147 pounds, it would be extremely difficult for Crawford to get 40% from Manny OR Spence.

                    Crawford is a wonderful fighter who has not fought anyone and has nobody in his stable to fight, his career is going to be defined by Arum's inability to elevate his career, he needs to pull a Floyd, an oscar, just leave, don't sign any more extensions!
                    For sure. As ODLH said the other day, Arum may well keep Bud out of the HOF. Imagine that.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by factsarenice View Post
                      Haymon is killing the Crawford fight, keeps Davis from Russell, Thurman from Spence, Ortiz from a 6 million pay day and I won't even mention Charlo, the list goes on and on. Seems to me that Haymon is the actual fight killer.
                      Meanwhile Wilder is fighting Ortiz! Tank is already a bigger star than Crawford! I've said plenty of times that Jermall Charlo should join DAZN, just like I've said many times that Crawford should have joined PBC!

                      However, who brutalized Joshua? Was that a PBC fighter? Who just fought Fury, and is signed to fight in February? Is that a PBC fighter? Who went to Sheffield and broke Hearn's Top WW? Was that a PBC fighter too? I think Al Haymon is doing just fine! HW on lock! 168 on lock! 154 on lock! And of course, 147 on lock! Not too shabby!

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