Spence “I’ll Never Betray Al, sets us up for retirement..” explains PBC Model

[Donnie Herrera]

I'm just a fan who wants to see my favorite boxer succeed. You, on the other hand, are a mentally diseased troll, sorry bro.

Your threads and contributions here suck. Find yourself.

You’re a groupie for gervonta...that’s not manly...nor is duckin’ fights with...Farmer...Gary Russell Jr and Lomachenko...your boy is the new Zab Judah and your pu55y gets wet everytime he stutters...don’t feel sorry for me...feel sorry for yourself for being a hoemotional...biased and unreasonable groupie...if you’re 21 or older...that’s even worse...I don’t duck...my issues or problems as a Man...but your boy does a lot of duckin’..he’s not elite...point...blank...period...
no matter how much you suck him off like the pathetic groupie that you are...doesn’t change that...how bout being an objective boxing “fan”...instead of a blind...psychophant...d1ckrider???..that doesn’t make you a fan...just

Oh...and my threads do numbers...while yours does nill!!!...Literally...

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=823176

[Curt Henning]

why do you always change the subject to age? you dont know how long tank will be in the game for. you dont know how long his prime will be for. he could be out by 30. shot by 30. what we do know is that he has been on the championship level for 3 years now and has fought nothing but tomato cans. are you saying its ok for people to fight tomato cans on the championship level if they are young? the little baby career plan

sorry guy...but age IS RELEVANT...always

yes we don't know what tanks future holds...if hes shot by 30 hes shot by 30....then hes juan manuel lopez or whoever....that's on him and that's his destiny

but age does matter

and yes...im saying that spence and Crawford and many others haven't achieved what tank has already at the tender age of 24

again....did spence or bud sell out in their hometown at 24? were they headlining and making the money that davis is making now at 24? have they provided main support to a ppv that did over 2 mil buys at 24? the answer is NO

and you can apply those questions to any top 20 p4p not named canelo right now and the answer would still be no.....you could apply them to Floyd and the answer would still be NO...golovkin? no.....whomever? no

tanks handlers are doing him just fine and I don't think hes upset.....just as much as you say he could be shot by 30 I could say he could be p4p #1 by 30 and fight till hes 35...neither of us know

what I do know is that for a 24 year old hes ahead of the curve by a good margin with plenty of room to grow...your idol golovkin didn't get his first big fight till he was like 34 lol

[Boksfan]

See. It's all about race with these people.

I agree, PBC fans are a bunch of racists. It's disgusting.

[Scipio2009]

Great and this does exactly what for the fight fans that pay to see the best fight the best? Stop paying?

Luis Ortiz is a top 5 heavyweight; if you want to doubt that, go **** yourself.

So fans who pay to see fights are getting a matchup, between 2 of the 5 best heavyweight boxers on the planet, in a rematch of a fight that was possibly fight of the year the first time through.

And if it plays out the way the first fight did (two-way action, where both fighters faced peril, only for Ortiz to rally late and stop Wilder), folks will be ready for a third fight too

[Scipio2009]

For Quillin Angulo was a low risk fight. Lost 5 times over the last 8 fights, was lower in weight compare to Quillin.

And like I said if I was a boxer I would probably follow that model too, I have seen Broner, Charlo, Wilder all turned down great money, might not be 15 times their usual payday but at least 7/8 times their usual payday for lesser risks.

I don’t hate the game, as a fan I criticise it because I want to see the best fight the best, but if I was a pro I would probably go with that model.

Fight for Hearn and earn bigger payday and get match tough early or go through the PBC Model of lesser risk but lesser pay whilst am 30-0, I know I would go the lesser route.

What fighter has Eddie Hearn ever "matched tough early"?

Matchroom Sport has basically had their pick of the top fighters on Team GB for the 2012 and 2016 cycles (and I believe the 2008 cycle as well but don't know for sure)

[Scipio2009]

For Quillin Angulo was a low risk fight. Lost 5 times over the last 8 fights, was lower in weight compare to Quillin.

And like I said if I was a boxer I would probably follow that model too, I have seen Broner, Charlo, Wilder all turned down great money, might not be 15 times their usual payday but at least 7/8 times their usual payday for lesser risks.

I don’t hate the game, as a fan I criticise it because I want to see the best fight the best, but if I was a pro I would probably go with that model.

Fight for Hearn and earn bigger payday and get match tough early or go through the PBC Model of lesser risk but lesser pay whilst am 30-0, I know I would go the lesser route.

... your comment specifically mentioned Alfredo Angulo and fighters looking to game risk/pay on fights.

[Scipio2009]

That's the sad thing in American boxing politics. Davis should fight five times if he's serious. Saying he's young cuts both ways.

5 camps in a year? At the world championship level in his weight class?

Are you serious?

[Scipio2009]

Vanes came out and complained strongly about his inactivity and then got bashed on here by the PBC fans. Comes to something when even promoters have fanbois who lack objectivity.

Yes, PBC is "looking after" fighter's money interests but the downside is there is a closed shop so we don't get Bud/Spence until after there's slippage and a lot of other fighters are only fighting once a year in their primes. Garcia-Garcia should be easy to make and would be compelling. They don't have to fight immediately but the could at least announce fights ahead of time.

The complaint wasn't about inactivity, so you should probably stop telling that lie. Choosing to sign with Don King, for whatever amount of money he fronted him, wouldn't have made any sense were that the motive.

Terence Crawford made a decision for himself and his family; with maybe two fights left on his deal, he chose to extend his contract early with Top Rank, for a bump in his guarantee, for basically the rest of his fighting career.

For all the words about Haymon having a closed shop, Bob Arum's Top Rank is literally a closed shop lol.

The days of fighters needing to scrap every six weeks to simply keep the lights on for their families are over.

[SteveM]

The complaint wasn't about inactivity, so you should probably stop telling that lie. Choosing to sign with Don King, for whatever amount of money he fronted him, wouldn't have made any sense were that the motive.

Terence Crawford made a decision for himself and his family; with maybe two fights left on his deal, he chose to extend his contract early with Top Rank, for a bump in his guarantee, for basically the rest of his fighting career.

For all the words about Haymon having a closed shop, Bob Arum's Top Rank is literally a closed shop lol.

The days of fighters needing to scrap every six weeks to simply keep the lights on for their families are over.

I agree with almost everything you say. BUT ... just because Vanes went to DK (****** move) doesn't mean that there isn't inactivity under the PBC umbrella - there is!

Just because TR might be a closed shop (less convinced about this as Arum will do do deals with PBC and GBP and Warren and Hearn) doesn't mean that PBC isn't (almost) a closed shop,

My issue is we don't get to see the best possible fights WHEN we should get to see them. There has always been some truth to this ... but it's getting worse.

Porter - Spence isn't a bad fight at all, a good one in fact but Bud - Spence is twice the fight and it's being delayed too long because Haymon is keeping Spence in house - and you have to ask yourself - why is that? He is not sure Spence wins and if he loses then his whole welterweight money making op dies a death.

[Eddy Current]

Spence is a damn good fighter and a damn good man and loyal.

He's arrogant and Porter is going to humble him by knocking him out and ending his career.