Comments Thread For: Showtime's Espinoza: Wilder-Ortiz PPV 'Deal Didn't Make Sense For Us'

[EnglishOxide]

I don't see what the big deal is. SHO opted not to air the PPV. Fox will air the PPV. Does it really matter if Fox or SHO handles the PPV?

The big deal is that Showtime turned their back on Deontay Wilder because they didn't believe in him being able to sell a PPV to make it financially viable for them.

That's big news for an American heavyweight champion KO artist. It's further confirmation that he is not a draw and he is not attracting the financial investment he appears to have been promised by turning down the DAZN $100m.

FOX aren't exactly blowing them out of the water financially as far as we know.

Where the hell does he go and make $30m/$40m/$50m if Fury's cut doesn't heal and he only sells 3k seats on his own anyway? Are broadcasters going to be generous when looking at these numbers? Deyonce was talking about $2m PPV buys for this first fight.

What if AJ beats Ruiz Jr and ignores Deyonce then goes and fights Fury? There's another payday gone. All he's left with are high risk and low reward fights with Whyte, Ruiz Jr (beltless) and Kownacki.

Since turning down the AJ fight Wilders earnings are nosediving compared to what they would have been if he had just taken the AJ fight and knocked him out.

[DARTH SILKWORMS]

Showtime literally gave the fight to fox due to it not being realistic this article states as much.

If you read the article (and others), you'd realize the bidding got so high that SHO had to bow out. It wasn't realistic for SHO because FOX is offering such a high guarantee.

it’s hard to defend someone who turns down 100m with a straight face.

The 100 million never existed because Joshua lost. The only thing Wilder turned down was fighting Breazeale on DAZN. Had Joshua beat Ruiz, there's no reason DAZN couldn't have made Wilder a fair offer for the fight. There was no reason for Wilder to have to fight Breazeale on DAZN.

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If you read the article (and others), you'd realize the bidding got so high that SHO had to bow out. It wasn't realistic for SHO because FOX is offering such a high guarantee.




The 100 million never existed because Joshua lost. The only thing Wilder turned down was fighting Breazeale on DAZN. Had Joshua beat Ruiz, there's no reason DAZN couldn't have made Wilder a fair offer for the fight. There was no reason for Wilder to have to fight Breazeale on DAZN.

The million did exist ,losing to Miller would be nullified had Wilder signed bc Whyte was the original opponent and no replacement opponent takes place ,it becomes wilder vs AJ after the Breazeale fight. You can keep creating false narratives but the fact is Wilder declined a multi million deal ,he went with least resistance path but still lost to Fury .

[REDEEMER]

For a fight that A) Wouldn't happen because AJ lost or B) he would've gotten 40 mil for while making AJ's team 60. I think he prefers not to be a tool

Well we know hes not the sharpest tool,none of what you guys say ever adds up either. see previous post.

[Removed Now]

People who aint broke.

^ somebody who makes bad financial decisions.

[killakali]

You make absolutely no sense the money was there for the unification of titles which is why breazeale was saying in build up to wilder fight he was going ruin plans and get the rematch with aj try again

U make absolutely no sense. Breazeale said they After the fight was finalized for showtime and the DAZN offer was gone. Wilder would have been guaranteed 100 mill even if he lost to Breazeale

[DARTH SILKWORMS]

Wilder would have been guaranteed 100 mill even if he lost to Breazeale

But not if Joshua lost to Ruiz, which he did. Had Joshua won, Wilder would have still had 40 million on the table, if not more. There was no reason to fight Breazeale on DAZN.

[manlikefemi00]

The big deal is that Showtime turned their back on Deontay Wilder because they didn't believe in him being able to sell a PPV to make it financially viable for them.

That's big news for an American heavyweight champion KO artist. It's further confirmation that he is not a draw and he is not attracting the financial investment he appears to have been promised by turning down the DAZN $100m.

FOX aren't exactly blowing them out of the water financially as far as we know.

Where the hell does he go and make $30m/$40m/$50m if Fury's cut doesn't heal and he only sells 3k seats on his own anyway? Are broadcasters going to be generous when looking at these numbers? Deyonce was talking about $2m PPV buys for this first fight.

What if AJ beats Ruiz Jr and ignores Deyonce then goes and fights Fury? There's another payday gone. All he's left with are high risk and low reward fights with Whyte, Ruiz Jr (beltless) and Kownacki.

Since turning down the AJ fight Wilders earnings are nosediving compared to what they would have been if he had just taken the AJ fight and knocked him out.

These deluded yellow toothed British nationalists are coming
out of the woodwork again after their hero got bullied by a fat man.

Why are you so obsessed with how much Wilder earns ? Why are you obsessed with Americans ? Why are you obsessed with American Networks and Broadcasters which are not available in your country ?

You're Nigerian hero and all his inbred nationalistic Welfare stinking fans seem to be really agitated ever since he got pinged around the ring by a hideous looking blob

[SchoolTheseCats]

U make absolutely no sense. Breazeale said they After the fight was finalized for showtime and the DAZN offer was gone. Wilder would have been guaranteed 100 mill even if he lost to Breazeale

Wilder and his team met with DAZN executive chairman John Skipper in New York last Tuesday to discuss a deal that would have led to a showdown for the undisputed heavyweight world championship with unified titleholder Anthony Joshua as long as Wilder and Joshua won interim bouts. Wilder's ninth title defense against Breazeale likely will take place on May 18 at Barclays Center and Joshua will make his United States debut in his seventh defense against Jarrell "Big Baby" Miller on June 1 at Madison Square Garden in New York.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/26300183/wilder-camp-rejects-9-figure-dazn-offer

They both had to win respective fights and article also list both offers dazn made to wilder so I don’t know where you coming up with fight would happen even if he lost.... you are confusing the rematch clause my friend

[LoadedWraps]

big mistake. it would have sold 2 million ppvs.

Listen to this cat.