Comments Thread For: Showtime's Espinoza: Wilder-Ortiz PPV 'Deal Didn't Make Sense For Us'

[Ray*]

Basically they don’t want to lose money on a fight nobody wanted. DAZN has already shut the door. The offer would get “bigger” bridge must be crying �� right now .

[PotentialToast]

What will be interesting is when Whyte v Wilder goes to purse.

[GhostofDempsey]

There have been reports for weeks that FOX and SHO were fighting for the rights to the PPV. The bidding got so high and FOX's offer was so aggressive, that SHO could no longer afford the fight.

And in your view, that means Wilder isn't a PPV attraction?

Clearly FOX disagrees.

We'll just have to see what the numbers end up being. I think the fight will easily do 250,000 buys, but I'll be happy to admit you were right if the PPV flops.

This fight at best might break 150K, but I don't think so. I'm all for fighters earning money and I like to see high PPV numbers, but I just don't think Wilder/Ortiz II ticks all the boxes for both hardcore and casual fans.

[j.razor]

Next year will be showtime's last year in boxing. Watch.

You guys said it was going to be last year

[j.razor]

So Arum & Hearn were right after all.

No, not right. They know when its time to put it on PPV.

[j.razor]

Without saying it they said it, nobody cares about Wilder in America.

I see D.Wilder getting a lot of love in america. His K.O.'s always go viral too.

[j.razor]

So, Wilder isn't loyal to showtime afterall

Why did he turn down over $100m?

That wasn't D.Wilder being disloyal.

He turned down that "100m" cuz he will get more than that in the short run AND have control of his own career. Smart man.

[j.razor]

Wilder needs just 23 more Ortiz rematches to match that DAZN money. 1 down, 22 to go.

dazn is hurting right now. They said fighters would no longer get inflated purses. That's what happens when you pay fake hype jobs (Pvssy-G) about 15 million to fight rolls

[j.razor]

Substantial doesn't mean 20 million. It was probably substantial compared to his previous paydays.

He didn't bet on himself. He got brainwashed into thinking he did by Finkel & Haymon who didn't want Wilder help Hearn by fighting on his platform.

If you think he will have made 100 milion by the time he fights Fury for Breazeale, Ortiz II and Fury II that's on you.

It was a duck, plain and simple. No way around it.

You got that shet twisted cuz they ducking D.Wilder & the only one willing to fight D.Wilder is King Kong. You guys mad that D.Wilder getting paid regardless.

[j.razor]

Man, Wilder turned down a guaranteed $100 million plus to be loyal and Showtime says he’s not worth their money?

This is chess not checkers..