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  • Larry the boss
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    #41
    Originally posted by daggum
    floyd changed the money. do some research please. also research the winky fight so you can see the same pattern. you dont change the money from 50-50 which would have netted both guys 250 mill plus to only 40 million no ppv if you are serious about making the fight. you can not dispute that. you have no answer for that. that was a fight killer and you know it. instead you chose to focus on things that happened before floyd killed the fight pretending like they mattered when you know what floyd did afterwards yet ignore it.
    you are talking about 2 different negotiations..he said after Manny walked the 50-50 was off of the table

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      #42
      Originally posted by Roadblock
      Debating what argument you have no argument to back any of your statements, he was not betting fav in all his 49 bouts, but when he became betting fav it was because he was an exceptional talent in the making.

      With Mayweathers record to say there were no risks is stating he was head and shoulders above the rest, I dont think he was that good just a head above the rest of his era, without a doubt in my mind and Ive followed boxing for 50 yrs Floyd was the best of his Era.

      And it happens to be during the dawn of the internet era where every moran beats a drum, Leonard Robinson, Ali, Duran Hagler and all the rest of history's greats would all be normalised loved and hated in this very same internet era, greatness will forever be distorted when the masses have easy access to gossip.

      There is a Ward tube where Andre goes on about how if Floyd cannot get his dues after what he has done what hope does he have, its an interesting video touching on the real side of fanboy thinking in the internet age.

      Youre a fanboy that hates people you will never know, I like boxing the sport and I look at fighters based ONLY on there ring showings I just dont get the hate from you guys, I just dont get it, I can only take it that 98% of you have never boxed.
      i have nothing to back my statements...i just posted the odds showing him a favorite in all his fights yet im the fanboy? you just make up things at will. that sounds like what a fanboy would do. there is a difference between being wrong and being a fanboy. if you read the thread you would see that floyd was always the fav and yet you still say otherwise. thats fanboy territory. simply being wrong would be looking at what was posted and saying oh ok he was the fav and going from there. not doubling down like fanboys do.

      once again i am dissecting an argument fanboys have posted about ggg and turning it against floyd. not to attack floyd but to attack the argument so in a sense im actually defending floyd. if im attacking floyd im also attacking ggg since its the same argument. im attacking a dumb argument that people think being the fav means you take no risks.

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      • daggum
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        #43
        Originally posted by Jack Napier.
        you are talking about 2 different negotiations..he said after Manny walked the 50-50 was off of the table
        he did interviews for years saying all manny has to do is take the test. he even made t-shirts saying take the test. he saw something he could run with and exploited it for low info fans. when manny finally called his bluff thats when he changed the money and he didnt change it to something like 55-45. something you could maybe understand but something more along the lines of 90-10! thats a fight killer and you know it. he ran out of roadblocks to put up and basically waved the white flag but now you are sitting there telling me the white flag doesnt mean surrender it means he wants to fight hmm ok

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          #44
          Rent free. Sad.

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          • hugh grant
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            #45
            Floyd never wanted to be better than people thought he was.
            If he was underdog against nel o at 160 but then went onto win and surprise people. People would have to eat humble pie and acknowledge he was better than they thought. Like Ali said after beating foreman don't make me underdog until I'm 50 years old. We've been apologetic to Ali ever since.

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              #46
              Originally posted by daggum
              he did interviews for years saying all manny has to do is take the test. he even made t-shirts saying take the test. he saw something he could run with and exploited it for low info fans. when manny finally called his bluff thats when he changed the money and he didnt change it to something like 55-45. something you could maybe understand but something more along the lines of 90-10! thats a fight killer and you know it. he ran out of roadblocks to put up and basically waved the white flag but now you are sitting there telling me the white flag doesnt mean surrender it means he wants to fight hmm ok
              He literally said 50-50 was off of the table soon as Manny walked away

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                #47
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                Floyd never wanted to be better than people thought he was.
                If he was underdog against nel o at 160 but then went onto win and surprise people. People would have to eat humble pie and acknowledge he was better than they thought. Like Ali said after beating foreman don't make me underdog until I'm 50 years old. We've been apologetic to Ali ever since.
                He dominated Canelo, so why does he have to rematch him at 160 at 40 years old..the things ya'll post makes no sense

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                • Joe Beamish
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                  #48
                  True enough, actually, once he moved up.

                  A real welterweight opponent would have been a risk. Didn't happen.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by giant_king
                    lol took the words right out my mouth who in the world would be a favorite over the G.O.A.T. There's not one boxer in Floyd era that was on his level.The closest was Oscar.And we all know what happened to Oscar lol
                    Yea, we all know what happened to Oscar...he lost a split decision in a close fight. Big statement. I know, I know...Floyd “schooled” him doe.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Joe Beamish
                      True enough, actually, once he moved up.

                      A real welterweight opponent would have been a risk. Didn't happen.
                      Define real WW will you ?

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