Comments Thread For: Errol Spence: I Knew If I Couldn't Get Pacquiao, I'd Get Porter
Collapse
-
[QUOTE=Oregonian;20073191]———
Your response is very typical. You just respond without even taking in what I wrote.
The fighters I did not mention for obvious reasons are
Floyd- PAC lost
Bradley - PAC lost one and it’s not like Bradley was that good a fighter. He beat Devon at 140 and didn’t hang around too much. Moved to 147 and cashed out in the trilogy
Thurman - good opponent and great fight. I dont knock PAC for that.
Can you name other guys that you believe were legit opponents that PAC beat?
Please humor and list them or even counter the names I listed above
We are all humored at your "Pac lost to Bradley" assessment.
Is this CJ Ross I'm talking to?Comment
-
[QUOTE=Truth Serum;20076869]
Dude, read and absorb what I write first.
PAC had great fights at 126/130 and he won some and lost some.
It’s the 140/147 division that mentioned on all my posts.
Can you name legit guys that PAC beat at those weights without catchweights, or guys coming off losses?Comment
-
[QUOTE=Oregonian;20077692]————
Dude, read and absorb what I write first.
PAC had great fights at 126/130 and he won some and lost some.
It’s the 140/147 division that mentioned on all my posts.
Can you name legit guys that PAC beat at those weights without catchweights, or guys coming off losses?
Tim Bradley's only losses came from Manny and could have went defeated vs any other Welter at the time.
Thurman who might be the 2nd best current Welter in the game.
Name a taller Welter with more reach with a better resume than that.Comment
-
[QUOTE=Truth Serum;20078900]
Cotto was a great win for Pac. Cotto weighed exactly 1 pound less than he did his previous win over Clottey. Manny came in a pound under the limit.
Tim Bradley's only losses came from Manny and could have went defeated vs any other Welter at the time.
Thurman who might be the 2nd best current Welter in the game.
Name a taller Welter with more reach with a better resume than that.
Regardless of Cotto’s previous fight details, it was a catchweight demand at 145 from Team PAC. So it’s pretty obvious the intent behind that and if you know boxingbthen you know why that is so. This is not rocket science.
Again, regardless of Bradley’s loss, he beat PAC and that is precisely my point. PAC got beat.
Thurman is the only big win PAC has had at 147. And I am not knocking that. It was a huge step up from all the garbage fights PAC has at 147.
Bottom line is PAC got beat at 147 by Floyd and Bradley.
The rest were all tomato cans that he cherry picked into a dubious “fighter of the decade” accolades.
Except for Thurman of course and any logical boxing fan will not discredit him for that win.Comment
-
[QUOTE=Oregonian;20081567]——————
Regardless of Cotto’s previous fight details, it was a catchweight demand at 145 from Team PAC. So it’s pretty obvious the intent behind that and if you know boxingbthen you know why that is so. This is not rocket science.
Again, regardless of Bradley’s loss, he beat PAC and that is precisely my point. PAC got beat.
Thurman is the only big win PAC has had at 147. And I am not knocking that. It was a huge step up from all the garbage fights PAC has at 147.
Bottom line is PAC got beat at 147 by Floyd and Bradley.
The rest were all tomato cans that he cherry picked into a dubious “fighter of the decade” accolades.
Except for Thurman of course and any logical boxing fan will not discredit him for that win.
Btw, you never metioned a fighter that has a better Welter Resume than Manny.Comment
-
[QUOTE=Truth Serum;20081685]
Even if I give you the Bradley fight, it does not change the fact that from2012 to 2019 PAC bums after bums except for three fights.
7 years!!! And he lost to Floyd.
So at WW the only good names on his resume are Floyd in which he lost.
Bradley - arguably lost one but let’s just say he won.
Thurman - great win, no doubt
So this is not about who had a better resume. It’s about PAC’s tattered resume.
How many belt holders did Floyd beat at WW
Zab, Baldomir, Guerrero, PAC, Ortiz, Mosley etc
At Jr MW there was Oscar, Cotto and Canelo.
All belt holders.
I know you’ll come back with semantics which I can disprove but measure that against PAC’s tattered, cherry picked fights and what do you have?Comment
-
[QUOTE=Oregonian;20081743]————-
Even if I give you the Bradley fight, it does not change the fact that from2012 to 2019 PAC bums after bums except for three fights.
7 years!!! And he lost to Floyd.
So at WW the only good names on his resume are Floyd in which he lost.
Bradley - arguably lost one but let’s just say he won.
Thurman - great win, no doubt
So this is not about who had a better resume. It’s about PAC’s tattered resume.
How many belt holders did Floyd beat at WW
Zab, Baldomir, Guerrero, PAC, Ortiz, Mosley etc
At Jr MW there was Oscar, Cotto and Canelo.
All belt holders.
I know you’ll come back with semantics which I can disprove but measure that against PAC’s tattered, cherry picked fights and what do you have?
Why did you put Mosley on Floyd's list? I didn't use him on Manny's and they fought a year apart.
You also brought up Canelo after bashing Manny's 1 lb difference vs Cotto.
You are using semantics that disprove your own agenda.Comment
-
[QUOTE=Truth Serum;20081903]
Cherypicked Beltholders or not, Zab, Baldomir, Guerrero, Ortiz are all 50/50 fights vs Brandon Rios and Chris Algeri (2 worst on Manny's 147 list). Bradley, Cotto, JMM, and Vargas beats them all IMO.
Why did you put Mosley on Floyd's list? I didn't use him on Manny's and they fought a year apart.
You also brought up Canelo after bashing Manny's 1 lb difference vs Cotto.
You are using semantics that disprove your own agenda.
Mosley had KO’d Margarito and was the lineal belt holder when Floyd fought him.
Manny fought him right after he had lost to Floyd. Why would he do that? Can you imagine if it was Floyd who did that?
Canelo is the one that offered Floyd the catch weight. Google this or I can send you the link. Also, Canelo wasn’t coming off any loss like Oscar, Cotto or Margarito
As for JMM or Bradley beating Zab or Guerrero etc that’s just something we won’t agree on so i’ll Just leave it at thatComment
Comment