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  • Sledgeweather17
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    #21
    Originally posted by factsarenice
    Spence isn't fighting Crawford he's moving up, and when he does I EXPECT you to admit he ducked Crawford.
    Lol, I'll be waiting for your admission too then. I expect you to admit that you were a sour pus hater when Spence fights Crawford.

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    • KillaMane26
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      #22
      Originally posted by Oregonian
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      How far does your boxing history go? I am not knocking on you but if you don’t know about Arum and his fighters then you’d never write what you just wrote.
      Do you remember Gamboa and JuanMa?
      How about PAC from 2010 to 2014? Look at the opponents PAC fought before finally facing Floyd. And then 2015 up until 2019

      No point in explaining....They dont like PBC guys so they willing to side with Snake ass Arum and disregard boxing politics which been going on for decades.

      If the fight is big enough they will work 2gether if not they won't. Its that simple

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      • FredRekk
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        #23
        Originally posted by boliodogs
        He isn't avoiding Crawford. He has never recieved a single offer to fight Crawford. Is he supposed to fight Crawford for free? Spence fights champions while Crawford fights Khan and next some guy nobody ever heard of.

        Spence ain’t fought *****.
        Dude’s mad overrated and terrible resume.
        NO NUTS NO GLORY.

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        • Oregonian
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          #24
          [QUOTE=Verus;20067836]
          Originally posted by Oregonian
          Arum always has many agendas and is sometimes too smart by half as they say in Texas. Crawford is one of the most talented boxers of the last decade or so, and Spence is at the same level. It is a fight that should happen soon, but Haymon controls most of the talent at welterweight so we shall see. As for Mayweather, I don't think he avoided anyone, but he did try to get the best advantage possible in every fight. Nothing wrong with that.
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          My guess is Arum is hoping Spence moves up to 154 so they can dodge that bullet.
          If the fight happens I think it could be the “fight of the century” we’ve been dreaming about.

          That aside, what exactly do you mean Floyd “tried to get every possible advantage”?
          Ha ha ha! And I mean that in the kindest way (think whatchoo talking bout Willis?

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            #25
            Pacman has a chance to beat Spence with same day weigh ins and without IV.

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            • Verus
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              #26
              [QUOTE=Oregonian;20068026]
              Originally posted by Verus
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              My guess is Arum is hoping Spence moves up to 154 so they can dodge that bullet.
              If the fight happens I think it could be the “fight of the century” we’ve been dreaming about.

              That aside, what exactly do you mean Floyd “tried to get every possible advantage”?
              Ha ha ha! And I mean that in the kindest way (think whatchoo talking bout Willis?
              Arum is about making money and he knows Spence will move up to 154 before too long, so he and Bud have an incentive to make the fight before that happens. It is as you say a "fight of the century type fight" and at age 87 it might be the Bobfather's last hurrah as an active promoter.

              As for Mayweather, getting every possible advantage is normal and I don't mean doing illegal things. As the "A-side" he dictated the terms of all of his fights. He gave himself every opportunity to win -- keeping in shape year-round, fighting whom he wanted to fight, when he wanted to fight and where he wanted to fight. He always had the home-field advantage. He paid attention to every detail, from the opponent's flaws to his own weaknesses. This is a lesson that Canelo has learned well.

              Floyd is more accomplished in three things more than any other fighter of his generation, in this order: marketing, strategy, and boxing. I have said before, he could have given a seminar on marketing at Harvard. As for strategy two books come to mind. One is "The Book of Five Rings" by Miyamoto Musashi" and the other is "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu. A third would be any book that Floyd would care to write about the subject.

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              • Rip Chudd
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                #27
                Originally posted by FredRekk
                Spence ain’t fought *****.
                Dude’s mad overrated and terrible resume.
                NO NUTS NO GLORY.
                Please tell us who is on YOUR glorious resume

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                • Thaman2x
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                  #28
                  Crawford knew all along that he wanted to move up to Welterweight...that being said, it confuses the HELL outta me as to why he would sign a contract extension with Bob Arum, especially with that ESPN+ deal in the works. Instead of people talking smack about Spence fighting all of the best welterweights NOT named Crawford, people should be asking themselves why Crawford put himself in this predicament in the first place!

                  At the end of the day, we will see Crawford vs Spence on 1 of 2 of the following occasions:
                  1. Bob Arum dies and whoever takes over relents letting Crawford Walk
                  2. The fight grows to the highest profile fight in boxing and generates enough buzz to warrant a co-promotion.

                  Once again, just like many other fighters, BOB ARUM IS HINDERING BUDS CAREER!!!

                  See Mayweather, Cotto, De la Hoya, etc as PROOF.

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                  • Thaman2x
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                    #29
                    [QUOTE=Verus;20068213]
                    Originally posted by Oregonian
                    Arum is about making money and he knows Spence will move up to 154 before too long, so he and Bud have an incentive to make the fight before that happens. It is as you say a "fight of the century type fight" and at age 87 it might be the Bobfather's last hurrah as an active promoter.
                    Spence will move up to 154 after he's cleaned out the division. If it becomes unattainable to get the Crawford fight, he will have no choice but to move up to fight at 154. Lets keep in mind, boxing politics rule the spectrum here....So, as much as it pains me to say, by the time Spence collects the WBA and WBC chips, he will be (and really already is) the A-Side in the Crawford fight. Bob is probably praying Spence just moves up so that they can scream "duck"

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                      #30
                      [QUOTE=Verus;20068213]
                      Originally posted by Oregonian
                      Arum is about making money and he knows Spence will move up to 154 before too long, so he and Bud have an incentive to make the fight before that happens. It is as you say a "fight of the century type fight" and at age 87 it might be the Bobfather's last hurrah as an active promoter.

                      As for Mayweather, getting every possible advantage is normal and I don't mean doing illegal things. As the "A-side" he dictated the terms of all of his fights. He gave himself every opportunity to win -- keeping in shape year-round, fighting whom he wanted to fight, when he wanted to fight and where he wanted to fight. He always had the home-field advantage. He paid attention to every detail, from the opponent's flaws to his own weaknesses. This is a lesson that Canelo has learned well.

                      Floyd is more accomplished in three things more than any other fighter of his generation, in this order: marketing, strategy, and boxing. I have said before, he could have given a seminar on marketing at Harvard. As for strategy two books come to mind. One is "The Book of Five Rings" by Miyamoto Musashi" and the other is "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu. A third would be any book that Floyd would care to write about the subject.

                      I agree on your point of Floyd being the most accomplished fighter in that order however I think you can say the same thing about Pacquiao in just a different order: Boxing, strategy, marketing.

                      The fact that pacquiao doesn't market himself, talk up himself and claims TBE yet is still compared to Floyd in boxing terms is why Pacquiao is more accomplished in boxing than Floyd which at the end of the day isn't that what this is all about? The sport and not the business of it from a fan perspective? That's why Manny will always be greater.

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