Tank was too young, but Haney is not?

[VonTrier]

Lol...

I actually had the pleasure of watching Loma live at 20 years old a the European championships in 2008 and he was far more impressive than either of those guys. If that’s your honest opinion, you really need to go and watch more of Loma’s amateur fights. Loma at Beijing in 2008 was absolutely sensational.

At their age... Loma was convincingly beating guys like Oscar Valdez and Jose Carlos Ramirez.

I agree about the Pedraza weight stuff, but come on bro... don’t be delusional.

Loma was 23 when he beat a 19 year old Jose Carlos Ramirez. Now he says he won't even go to 140. He was also 21 when he beat an 18 year old Oscar Valdez. A Valdez who has been quite a disappointment to most of the people who believed in him.

So no, Haney or Tank fighting the best fighter across like 3 weight classes who is 31 before they're 25 isn't the same thing.

Pedraza himself says he was having trouble at that weight. He struggled to make weight against Tank.

Did he use it as an excuse for getting walked down and blown out by a 5'4 midget?

You clearly don't think Haney or Gervonta would give Loma trouble. I don't either. So why do you want to see the fight?

[GhostofDempsey]

No, I am pointing the agendas you push all the time here.

If you want to see him fight Haney, then great! Leave it at that. But there is a reason you made this thread. You could have made a thread saying Haney is wanting to do something Tank refused to do, instead you bring the age angle to this. And there are others that have posted recently that Haney doesn't deserve the fight and he needs to prove himself. Why? What did Tank do to deserve the fight? Beat Pedraza?

No agenda. I already expressed my reason for starting the thread, you just don't like it. Maybe it's your hatred of Loma, or your loyalty to TMT/PBC? Not sure, but this is a very straight forward thread. No agenda here, nor is there one in my other threads you're crying about. But feel free to start your own threads instead hi******* others.

[GhostofDempsey]

Loma was 23 when he beat a 19 year old Jose Carlos Ramirez. Now he says he won't even go to 140. He was also 21 when he beat an 18 year old Oscar Valdez. A Valdez who has been quite a disappointment to most of the people who believed in him.

So no, Haney or Tank fighting the best fighter across like 3 weight classes who is 31 before they're 25 isn't the same thing.



Did he use it as an excuse for getting walked down and blown out by a 5'4 midget?

You clearly don't think Haney or Gervonta would give Loma trouble. I don't either. So why do you want to see the fight?

Pedraza has already moved up two weight classes, so I don't think he is making an excuse about having trouble making 130. He immediately moved to 135 after his loss to Tank.

I think Haney would give Loma a tough fight. Tank not so much. Because I don't think Tank would be competitive doesn't mean I'm being biased, I just don't think his style would be effective. Haney has better fundamentals.

[brick wall]

tank's hype vs loma didn't work

then they jumped bandwagon to lopez...didn't work too

now they got haney to hype...

typical nsb hype train from the same ****** fans

[VonTrier]

Pedraza has already moved up two weight classes, so I don't think he is making an excuse about having trouble making 130. He immediately moved to 135 after his loss to Tank.

I think Haney would give Loma a tough fight. Tank not so much. Because I don't think Tank would be competitive doesn't mean I'm being biased, I just don't think his style would be effective. Haney has better fundamentals.

Pedraza just got routed by a middling 140er in Zepeda. If anything, he'll go back to 135. That has no bearing on the fact he'd fought at 130 most the vast majority of his career before he fought Tank who walked over him like he wasn't world level. No matter how you want to downplay the match, it's probably the best win a 22 year old scored this decade.

Haney has never even fought a live body. His amateur career wasn't very extensive either. He dropped 2/4 fights to Ryan Garcia while he was like a sop****re in high school and Garcia hasn't looked great himself. Brought along correctly, he certainly has the potential to be something great.

As for throwing him in with Loma right now? Not a chance lol. Not a chance in hell. The odds would reflect that. And you yourself, despite what you say to me, know that.

[VonTrier]

I'm not even sure Haney could beat Keyshawn Davis.

[Real King Kong]

Because the majority of people don’t believe tank can beat loma...stylistically, Haney has a better shot.

[MeanestNiceGuy]

Neither are truly ready for Lomachenko, so I wish they'd both just stop it.

[KTFOKING]

No agenda. I already expressed my reason for starting the thread, you just don't like it. Maybe it's your hatred of Loma, or your loyalty to TMT/PBC? Not sure, but this is a very straight forward thread. No agenda here, nor is there one in my other threads you're crying about. But feel free to start your own threads instead hi******* others.

Hatred towards Lomachenko? Nonsense, I give him his full credit.

I don't create threads pushing my agendas like you do. There is always something you are looking for when you create these threads. I called you on your BS last time on the Spence/Pacquiao thread and I see the same here.

So how about this, YOU tell me is Haney too young to take this fight? Should he not take it if Tank was apparently too young? Should Haney wait Lomachenko before fighting him?

[GhostofDempsey]

Hatred towards Lomachenko? Nonsense, I give him his full credit.

I don't create threads pushing my agendas like you do. There is always something you are looking for when you create these threads. I called you on your BS last time on the Spence/Pacquiao thread and I see the same here.

So how about this, YOU tell me is Haney too young to take this fight? Should he not take it if Tank was apparently too young? Should Haney wait Lomachenko before fighting him?

What's my agenda genius? You wrongly assumed I didn't want Loma to fight Haney, once I stated I did want the fight, you went off on a tangent with agendas and off-topic Spence/Pac drama. Take your L like a man and move on, no need to deflect and distract with outside subject matter.