which boxer currently has the most delusional fan base?

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  • Vodkaholic
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    #51
    Originally posted by Raggamuffin
    AJ and Pac fans. Pacs fans are using the word “achievements” now to justify Pac being greater than Floyd. AJs fans are just in plain denial.
    Um but Pacquiao does have more achievements than Mayweather. Theres nothing mayweather has done that hasnt or wont be done again except make the most money

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    • GGG Gloveking
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      #52
      Originally posted by BangEM
      When you get to a certain level in boxing, unless you're chasing legacy - you don't even need the belts. Mayweather was at that stage before he retired. Canelo is at that stage now. And AJ is also at that stage albeit he's still chasing legacy. If he's the type that doesn't care about legacy - he doesn't need a belt.

      You can fight bums and uber driver driver like Wilder has done throughout their careers and land punches. How does that change anything when you're still loser who's making crumbs?

      Prizefighting is all about and as long as you're making crazy money - you're winning. And for a guy who came from nothing and council estate to earn 9 figures in just 5 yrs - he's forever winning even in losses.
      You are basically restating your position. Again, I say financial success is not a criteria for winning in boxing. Pound for pound has nothing to do with money.

      Bolded: the difference between Wilder and AJ is that Wilder is an undefeated champion and AJ is a Challenger with a loss on his record. This goes directly to my point.

      Boxing isn't like the Billboard charts. Having the most sales doesn't automatically mean you're #1.

      Maybe you should be a Taylor Swift fan

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      • BangEM
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        #53
        Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
        You are basically restating your position. Again, I say financial success is not a criteria for winning in boxing. Pound for pound has nothing to do with money.

        Bolded: the difference between Wilder and AJ is that Wilder is an undefeated champion and AJ is a Challenger with a loss on his record. This goes directly to my point.

        Boxing isn't like the Billboard charts. Having the most sales doesn't automatically mean you're #1.

        Maybe you should be a Taylor Swift fan
        I don't have time for circle arguments. If you can't grasp the essence of prizefighting - go do some reading.

        Who gives a shyt about being undefeated apart from casuals? Any idiot can be undefeated if you have to fight 43 bums back to back. All the GOATs aren't undefeated.

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          #54
          Originally posted by BangEM
          I don't have time for circle arguments. If you can't grasp the essence of prizefighting - go do some reading.

          Who gives a shyt about being undefeated apart from casuals? Any idiot can be undefeated if you have to fight 43 bums back to back. All the GOATs aren't undefeated.
          Are the GOATs the highest earners? Does anyone calculate career earnings when determining who they consider a GOAT? Does the IBHOF use career earnings as a guideline, measure, or any determinant otherwise, in determining whether or not a fighter should be inducted?

          As boxing fans, we should care about boxing, and use boxing as a guide for determining winners and losers. Maybe you need DollarScene or Forbes

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          • FinitoxDinamita
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            #55
            Canelo fans.. they think kovalev is an easy fight. Lol

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            • Sweet Scions
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              #56
              Spot the strawman lol~

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              • Raggamuffin
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                #57
                Originally posted by Vodkaholic
                Um but Pacquiao does have more achievements than Mayweather. Theres nothing mayweather has done that hasnt or wont be done again except make the most money
                Achievements? Lmao...and then he said, “except” lmao. How about “except get ktfo”!!! Lmao

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                • Vodkaholic
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                  Achievements? Lmao...and then he said, “except” lmao. How about “except get ktfo”!!! Lmao
                  Ah good ole "i cant prove him wrong so im gonna correct his grammar" argument. Lmao thanks for proving my point

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                    #59
                    Imho most fanbases are within reason on the fighter they support...maybe a little over-board but within reason.

                    As fans we tend to go overboard on the 'enemies' of our favorite fighters...which just comes off looking silly to me personally.

                    I would fully disclose here that I am a 'fan' of GGG and think Ward was very over-rated as a boxer...but they weren't exactly real rivals, and my analysis is just based on what I have seen from them in the ring in their fights.

                    But in general I don't see how some can, as an example, love a Manny Pacquaio so much and then hate a Floyd Mayweather so much, and vice versa...they had very similar careers and very similar successes.

                    So yeah I think fans are a little 'favorable' in hyping up their own fighters...but seem way over the top in hating on other guys they don't like.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      Manny fans are really delusional. He is clearly a 1st ballot HOF'er. That said they haven't been able to accept the fact media experts and historians rank him behind Floyd in every credible, unbiased poll of ATG boxers.
                      Have you been able to find non American historians or media experts who rank floyd above Pac as of September 2019 yet?

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