Lomachenko's Opponents Combined Record is 431-39

[ShoulderRoll]

You mean like Marquez and Floyd? A lot of you thought Rigo was going to win. Loma has also beaten bigger men when he stepped up, something Johnson didn’t do so well.

If you discredit someone's wins because they were the bigger man then you have to do that for everyone.

Unless you have double standards.

[Chollo Vista]

If you discredit someone's wins because they were the bigger man then you have to do that for everyone.

Unless you have double standards.

Of course he has a double standard. Look at the color of these text and look at the color of the background

[GhostofDempsey]

If you discredit someone's wins because they were the bigger man then you have to do that for everyone.

Unless you have double standards.

They weren't discredited solely on size, but lets face it, the size disparity between Johnson's opponents was way more than Loma/Rigo. You're grabbing at straws.

[ShoulderRoll]

They weren't discredited solely on size, but lets face it, the size disparity between Johnson's opponents was way more than Loma/Rigo. You're grabbing at straws.

Rigondeaux had to move up two weight classes. He's currently fighting at 118 lbs while Lomachenko regularly weighs close to 140 lbs on fight night.

[GhostofDempsey]

Rigondeaux had to move up two weight classes. He's currently fighting at 118 lbs while Lomachenko regularly weighs close to 140 lbs on fight night.

They were 7 pounds apart when they fought. Rigo could have had the fight at 126 and for more money, he played himself trying to make it a catch-weight fight at 124. Take it up with Rigo, he was the one who insisted he would beat Loma.

Floyd dragged JMM up over two weight classes. Didn't bother to make the catch-weight they agreed upon, then refused to get on the scale on the day of the fight. Talk about a size difference. Yet you Floyd-bots give him all the credit in the world for that win.

[ShoulderRoll]

They were 7 pounds apart when they fought. Rigo could have had the fight at 126 and for more money, he played himself trying to make it a catch-weight fight at 124. Take it up with Rigo, he was the one who insisted he would beat Loma.

Floyd dragged JMM up over two weight classes. Didn't bother to make the catch-weight they agreed upon, then refused to get on the scale on the day of the fight. Talk about a size difference. Yet you Floyd-bots give him all the credit in the world for that win.

I'm not the one who discredits Jack Johnson for being bigger than his opponents...but then doesn't discredit Lomachenko for being bigger than his opponent Rigondeaux.

That's all I'm saying.

[GhostofDempsey]

I'm not the one who discredits Jack Johnson for being bigger than his opponents...but then doesn't discredit Lomachenko for being bigger than his opponent Rigondeaux.

That's all I'm saying.

I said Johnson's best wins were against much smaller or washed up opponents (Burns, Ketchel, Langford, Jeffries, Fitzsimmons), and that is the truth. McVea, Jeannette, Langford were not even close to their respective primes yet. Still green.

Nice dodge on the Mayweather example I presented.

Loma has better wins than Rigo and they were bigger than him. Campbell, Linares, Pedraza...all bigger than him. His resume isn't built solely upon smaller or washed up fighters. He'll fight Lopez next, a guy who is younger, stronger, and struggling to make 135 and should be at 140. In fact will be at 140 after this fight.

[Jax teller]

Who specifically hates Loma because he is white? Name them and show why you honestly think so.

All I see is anyone that doesn’t rank him top p4p being labeled as a hater of white fighters or having a racial bias.

His skill isn’t questioned. It’s just not plausible that a fighter with 14 wins and 1 foty award is a top 10 ATG.

No one is saying top TEN ATG you keep adding that part.

Show me people saying " I think Loma is top ten ATG because he is white"

Your making up false arguments.

Theres a whole bunch of people experts, white people, black people saying is the best active fighter P4P and thats because of his skill, records and ambition.

I think very few people rate fighters soley on race. The racists only really discredit people they don't big people up they're just hateful.

It's also perfectly plausible to argue someone as visibly skilled as Loma with such an extensive amateur record (avenged all 3 of his losses in near 400 fights) as a P4P ATG. Never really been exposed even the Salido loss he made a good showing, finishing extremely strong.
Maybe he resume isn't ATG but his skill set and ability would appear to be so far so there's that argument.

Also it's pretty hard to rank ten active fighter above Loma in P4P without bias. So it's a bit of a give away.

[Jax teller]

Anyone who criticizes Lomachenko based on the color of his skin is beyond ******. Criticism should be based on his resume and his actions...

That's completely fair.

[Nay_Sayer]

They were 7 pounds apart when they fought. Rigo could have had the fight at 126 and for more money, he played himself trying to make it a catch-weight fight at 124. Take it up with Rigo, he was the one who insisted he would beat Loma.

So then you think Loma should go up to '47 and fight Errol Spence?