Lomachenko's Opponents Combined Record is 431-39

[Nay_Sayer]

They were 7 pounds apart when they fought.

Rigondeaux walked in the ring @ 130lbs or Super Featherweight. Lomafako walked into the ring @ 137.4lbs or Super Lightweight - two divisions North of Super Feather.

So, do you think Lomafako should go up to '47 and see Errol Spence?

[_Rexy_]

Rigondeaux had to move up two weight classes. He's currently fighting at 118 lbs while Lomachenko regularly weighs close to 140 lbs on fight night.

Rigo has moved down to 118 since then though. He was fighting at 122 at the time, and the fight had a hydration clause. It wasn't this massive disparity in weight.

[_Rexy_]

Rigondeaux walked in the ring @ 130lbs or Super Featherweight. Lomafako walked into the ring @ 137.4lbs or Super Lightweight - two divisions North of Super Feather.

So, do you think Lomafako should go up to '47 and see Errol Spence?

So.....they were 7 pounds apart then?

[Nay_Sayer]

So.....they were 7 pounds apart then?

They were two divisions apart.

If you and the rest of the Lomafako nut hugging crowd have no issue with this disparity then you should immediately petition your hero to go see Errol Spence @ '47. Sound reasonable?

[Nay_Sayer]

So.....they were 7 pounds apart then?

BTW - My application for a boxing license is in the mail - so your license is safe from personal hygienic use. For now.

Lol..

[The Big Dunn]

No one is saying top TEN ATG you keep adding that part.

Show me people saying " I think Loma is top ten ATG because he is white"

Your making up false arguments.

Theres a whole bunch of people experts, white people, black people saying is the best active fighter P4P and thats because of his skill, records and ambition.

I think very few people rate fighters soley on race. The racists only really discredit people they don't big people up they're just hateful.

It's also perfectly plausible to argue someone as visibly skilled as Loma with such an extensive amateur record (avenged all 3 of his losses in near 400 fights) as a P4P ATG. Never really been exposed even the Salido loss he made a good showing, finishing extremely strong.
Maybe he resume isn't ATG but his skill set and ability would appear to be so far so there's that argument.

Also it's pretty hard to rank ten active fighter above Loma in P4P without bias. So it's a bit of a give away.

You didn’t answer the question I asked. Name the posters.

This thread is wondering if he can be a top 10 ATG. If he isn’t white, Madison doesn’t ask this question.

The people that suggest he are can’t be using his resume because 13 wins and 1 foty award is not an ATG career under any circumstances. You know this. No one is questioning his skill.

You are wrong about racists. Note that many of the people that push Loma ATG status have also been banned for racism by the mods. That isn’t a coincidence. They use Loma as a symbol and elevate him unfairly over men who have accomplished more.

Since when is an amateur career used to measure whether someone is an ATG pro? Never. Loma decide to stay amateur until he was 25. His choice. Meanwhile there are men that have won multiple world titles in different weight classes before that age as pros, something he didn’t do.

Let’s stop the BS. As I pointed out in the thread discussing Steve Kim voting Inoue #1 p4p, the reactions and responses highlight exactly what I am talking about. A lot of people accused him of doing that only because of race. That is the same criticism used if someone votes Crawford or canelo in that spot.

I don’t see how anyone can make a case for Loma being an ATG with his resume as of now, which is the question of the thread.

[Lomadeaux]

You didn’t answer the question I asked. Name the posters.

This thread is wondering if he can be a top 10 ATG. If he isn’t white, Madison doesn’t ask this question.

The people that suggest he are can’t be using his resume because 13 wins and 1 foty award is not an ATG career under any circumstances. You know this. No one is questioning his skill.

You are wrong about racists. Note that many of the people that push Loma ATG status have also been banned for racism by the mods. That isn’t a coincidence. They use Loma as a symbol and elevate him unfairly over men who have accomplished more.

Since when is an amateur career used to measure whether someone is an ATG pro? Never. Loma decide to stay amateur until he was 25. His choice. Meanwhile there are men that have won multiple world titles in different weight classes before that age as pros, something he didn’t do.

Let’s stop the BS. As I pointed out in the thread discussing Steve Kim voting Inoue #1 p4p, the reactions and responses highlight exactly what I am talking about. A lot of people accused him of doing that only because of race. That is the same criticism used if someone votes Crawford or canelo in that spot.

I don’t see how anyone can make a case for Loma being an ATG with his resume as of now, which is the question of the thread.

Are you calling them racist or are they actually racist?

There's a big difference between accusing someone of being racist simply because you MIGHT think they are, or actually having evidence that they ARE.

You for example, ARE racist.

Find posts where people are saying racist things and I don't see how they're not banned.

[Lomadeaux]

Rigondeaux had to move up two weight classes. He's currently fighting at 118 lbs while Lomachenko regularly weighs close to 140 lbs on fight night.

I picked Rigondeaux to win.... I think the majority did.

[Lomadeaux]

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/645309
This is Davis 2nd fight, a debutante, world of difference between salido and a debutante, let’s not forget Davis had 200+ amateur fights, so explain why he didn’t pick a quality opponent for his 2nd fight

Because he was no where near ready to take on any pro challenges. He's still not ready to take on the best in his division.

[JOITATS]

Rigo was a shell of himself? He was ranked in everyone’s top ten P4P list going into that fight. BWAA, ESPN, etc. He just got outclassed by a better fighter.

rigo used to be a top ten p4p.
can you honestly say he was p4p, during that performance?

anyhow, lomachenko beat a guy 2 wgt classes below.
wasn't such an amazing accomplishment, as many have pointed out, including lomachenko himself.

if we put it into perspective. loma then had a competitive fight vs luke cambpell. who is solid but far from elite. then again campbell is naturally a bit heavier.