Lomachenko's Opponents Combined Record is 431-39
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I will look for it. It was before that if I am not mistaken. Steve Kim voted Inoue #1 and certain people felt that was only because he was Asian.
There only seems to be accusations of a racial agenda if you vote Canelo, Crawford or Inoue #1. These guys never accuse the posters that put Loma at #1 as having a racial agenda.Comment
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I will look for it. It was before that if I am not mistaken. Steve Kim voted Inoue #1 and certain people felt that was only because he was Asian.
There only seems to be accusations of a racial agenda if you vote Canelo, Crawford or Inoue #1. These guys never accuse the posters that put Loma at #1 as having a racial agenda.
and you're 100% right about the agendas on here. It's why I don't talk much about my own personal background. I've gotten PM's attacking me with racist comments as if I were every race under the sun lolComment
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True, Loma isn't responsible for a lack of available talent. However, it's not unfair to judge him according to the quality of his opposition. In this case, he beat a guy @ 130 who had never fought in the division or even at the division below. Mayweather gets TONS of scorn for having fought Marquez @ 147. I see no reason why the same can't apply here.
I disagree. Walters was the boogeyman prior to fighting Lomachenko, Rigo is a Top 5 amateur ever and 2 time gold medalist who has still only lost once. Linares was a good win and, in general, Lomas career is a lot like Floyd. No pure ELITE wins but a ton of good/great wins.
Pac hasn't fought at 140 since...what 2008 or 2009??? And Loma NEVER fought at 140.
So you DISCREDIT Loma for beating Rigo by dragging him up 2 weight classes AND you BLAME Loma for not moving up 2 weight classes to fight Pacman?
Is your mouth salty with that much **** in it?
I'm by no means denying that Lomachenko is a good fighter or has a good resume. That said, the debate is never about whether or not Lomachenko is a good fighter. The debate is always something silly about if he's an ATG or comparable to legit ATGs or if he's P4P #1. He CLEARLY doesn't have the resume to be P4P #1 and certainly not an ATG.Comment
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Here's what I have to do to become finally "validated" in the eye's of Lomadeaux or Rexy as a real fighter:
"To fight in your state as an amateur boxer, check with your state's athletic commission to see if you need to obtain a license. In most states, to acquire a license, you must pass a physical and submit an application. Medical tests, such as an EKG, various neurological tests and blood work, are often required, as well."
Whether or not I get KO'd in the first 15 seconds, that doesn't matter because at least I laced them up... Then and only then, can I officially come on boxingscene and post discussions about another boxer.
So go do it then. If it's so easy, what's stopping you?
And if you don't think that Manny Steward learned from 97 amateur fights and training with Eddie Futch, then I'm just done with this conversation.Comment
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I will look for it. It was before that if I am not mistaken. Steve Kim voted Inoue #1 and certain people felt that was only because he was Asian.
There only seems to be accusations of a racial agenda if you vote Canelo, Crawford or Inoue #1. These guys never accuse the posters that put Loma at #1 as having a racial agenda.
#1 Loma
#2 Crawford
#3 Inoue
#4 Canelo
#5 Estrada
#6 Usyk
#7 Beterbiev
#8 Taylor
#9 Fury
#10 whoever
Loma has the best resume in the top 10 and he should be undefeated as the Salido fight was a joke with whatever that refs name was...and Loma wins without controversy (Canelo) and has fought top opposition (Crawford) and hasn't really looked vulnerable (Inoue)
Its just my list and is subjective and others can have a different list which is also right. Most fans likely have a variation of this list thoComment
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Lampley had his moments
Kellerman, one of the most knowledgeable you're gonna find, imo.
Btw, you realize you can be a boxing expert that's racist, right?Comment
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The point I'm making is just because someone never became a professional, it still doesn't mean they can't be knowledgeable about a sport.
Again, Max Kellerman isn't knowledgeable because he never laced them up?Comment
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