Comments Thread For: Andy Ruiz: After That, No Way Does Fury Beat Me With One Hand

[soul_survivor]

He does have a good jab but a good jab in of itself does not one a masterful boxer. His jab (which is good) is not his strength.

According to boxing Jounalist Michael Rosenthal, "Three of Deontay Wilder’s past opponents were asked what has made the undefeated WBC World Heavyweight Champion so successful.
The obvious answer would’ve been Wilder’s calling card, his punching power. He has stopped all but two of his opponents for a reason. However, none of the three – Chris Arreola, Eric Molina and Gerald Washington – listed power first on their list of Wilder’s strengths.

Arreola: “His athleticism.”

Molina: His “one of a kind” style.

Washington: “He’s smart.”

The problem you seem to have is that you can find nothing good to say about Wilder. My opinion is that his skill set as a fighter is unique and effective. Better boxers than Deontay have lost to him, all of them. If Fury isn't careful in the rematch then he will be included as one of "all of them.'

That is all fine, none of that means he is a good boxer, or one who is not given credit for his boxing ability. Arreola "his athleticism"...I will not deny Wilder is athletic. He is able to lunge with his punches unlike anyone of his size. Does not equatet o him being a good boxer.

Molina "one of a kind"....what does that mean?

Washington "hes smart"...ok I may even agree with that but smart n which scale ? Washington is a nobody who has fought nobodies...obviously he will find his best opponent "smart". Btw did you watch this fight? Tell me how the rounds went before the KO and how many punches Wilder threw? It was a sham of a fight from start to end. Worse than even Haye v Harrison.

However, none of what you said equates to him being a good boxer. The most athletic fighter of all times, RJ, when his reflexes slowed, what did it show us? He was barely an average boxer. You know what a good boxer is? Ali and Leonard, when their reflexes faded, they started to rely on good footwork, an effective jab, an ability to decide when not to fight, the ability to throw accurate punches...

Wilder has none of those. His power punches are hard but so wild he misses the majority of these. His footwork is clulmsy at best, which is why he was out of position against Fury so much.

You can keep crowing about him not being rated as a boxer but there is a reason why.

[OldTerry]

That is all fine, none of that means he is a good boxer, or one who is not given credit for his boxing ability. Arreola "his athleticism"...I will not deny Wilder is athletic. He is able to lunge with his punches unlike anyone of his size. Does not equatet o him being a good boxer.

Molina "one of a kind"....what does that mean?

Washington "hes smart"...ok I may even agree with that but smart n which scale ? Washington is a nobody who has fought nobodies...obviously he will find his best opponent "smart". Btw did you watch this fight? Tell me how the rounds went before the KO and how many punches Wilder threw? It was a sham of a fight from start to end. Worse than even Haye v Harrison.

However, none of what you said equates to him being a good boxer. The most athletic fighter of all times, RJ, when his reflexes slowed, what did it show us? He was barely an average boxer. You know what a good boxer is? Ali and Leonard, when their reflexes faded, they started to rely on good footwork, an effective jab, an ability to decide when not to fight, the ability to throw accurate punches...

Wilder has none of those. His power punches are hard but so wild he misses the majority of these. His footwork is clulmsy at best, which is why he was out of position against Fury so much.

You can keep crowing about him not being rated as a boxer but there is a reason why.

Please, please...…… You're putting words into my mouth. I never said Wilder was a good boxer which he isn't. I said he has a good jab and I will also say he is a good fighter. The better boxer can lose to the better fighter and in Deontay's case it has happened repeatedly.

[4truth]

Even after Fury/Wallin, I still think Fury is a real bad match for Ruiz. Ruiz and Wallin are about as different as two fighters can be. Fury is still to tall, has too much reach and moves too well for Ruiz. I mean you can be the most fundamentally sound fighter in the division but if you cant close the gap to show your skills, you are in a very bad place, out of range but still taking fire.

[soul_survivor]

Please, please...…… You're putting words into my mouth. I never said Wilder was a good boxer which he isn't. I said he has a good jab and I will also say he is a good fighter. The better boxer can lose to the better fighter and in Deontay's case it has happened repeatedly.

"Wilder is a much better boxer than given credit for, great jab, quick feet and awesome punching power."

"Great jab" - I think we have established that is not the case.

"Better boxer than given credit" - I think we have both established that he is consistently outboxed by inferior opponents, so he is given the right amount of credit. He is just poor, poor, poor beyond his power.

That is my basic point and it is backed up by evidence in previous fights.

[OldTerry]

"Wilder is a much better boxer than given credit for, great jab, quick feet and awesome punching power."

"Great jab" - I think we have established that is not the case.

"Better boxer than given credit" - I think we have both established that he is consistently outboxed by inferior opponents, so he is given the right amount of credit. He is just poor, poor, poor beyond his power.

That is my basic point and it is backed up by evidence in previous fights.

what's also been backed up by evidence is that all of his opponents except for Fury have been stopped. I might add that Fury was as close to being stopped as one can be without actually being stopped (even that is debatable). If the top four (Wilder, Ruiz, Joshua an Fury) fight each other before old age becomes a factor I predict Wilder will be standing on the top of the heap.