Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury Overcomes Horrible Cut To Decision Otto Wallin

[rckdees]

Karma is starting to catch up to these clowns trying to hold on to their so called titles by scraping the bottom of barrel to find someone they can beat...FRAUDS

[Kannabis Kid]

Yeah, that stuff happened, haha. I wasn't trying to argue the case of "Actually Fury has an iron chin" so much as saying there's no real evidence that Wilder further diminished or took something from him in that respect.

Wilder definitely messed with Fury's mindstate thats for sure if not the rematch would've been taken place immediately and I feel he did break him a bit that punch he took in rd 12 from Wallin looked like it popped something in his head didn't look right after that one I hope for his sake he finishes up his contract and just retires.

[AdonisCreed]

Man fury won and got a @$$ whooping at the same time lol Fury tried to take the easy route to the Wilder rematch and got more trouble than he bargained for anyways! Wilder better be careful as well because Ortiz is on a mission.

[Humberto01]

Fury is definitely a Warrior I think he wanted to grind it out and make it a show. Clearly he won the fight unanimously. However I feel If he was facing Ortiz he would have been knocked out..King Kong Ortiz is gonna knock Wilder out cold. King Kong is the best Heavyweight and he will be the unified Champion. When he knocks Wilder out he will have the WBC belt and he is gonna want to unify. Ruiz is no match for Ortiz and Ortiz will easily dispose of Ruiz..

[Rusty Tromboni]

Not a good look for Fury. Not at all.


That being said, this was exactly the fight he needed.

1) Motivation.

Tyson Fury has issues with focus and motivation. To address that, they've determined he needs to stay active. Even hand-picked opponents, it proves, can be dangerous when they go off-script: Wallin wasn't going to serve as a punching bag, and at 6'6" 240 pounds, every punch he threw, even the errant one, was going to be dangerous.

2) Motivation, part 2.

If staying active keeps Fury from his demons. Nearly getting stopped by a guy he should've steam-rolled should force him into overdrive in his preparation for Wilder. If Wallin's pressure and power were problematic, what will a more confident Wilder do? Fury really has the fire under his ass now to bring his best self to the rematch.


3) Keeping sharp.

Think about how much worse things would have been in February against Wilder if Wallin had done what he's supposed to do. Wilder doesn't fight like Wallin, but this was the best preparation Fury could ask for.

Since his return, the only live opponent people have predicted for Fury has been Wilder. Wallin was supposed to be another scrub. In fact, Wallin gave Fury his greatest career challenge to date. He doesn't have Wilder's power, but he's definitely a hungier, more dynamic fighter with bigger heart. While stylisitically he's different than Wilder, and considerably less dangerous, the challenges he presented are exactly the thing Fury needed to keep himself sharp ahead of the rematch.


4) Developing new skills.

Forget about Wilder, Joshua, Ruiz and Usyk; and just consider Fury.
Wallin is probably better than most Heavyweights who out-rank him. At the very least he rose to the occasion against Fury. Being a South-paw who forced Fury to lead, and putting up a fight even when all hope was gone, he proved a stiff enough test that Fury had to overcome a challenge. But not so stiff a challenge that Fury found himself derailed. This is the problem with being a Heavyweight: there are so few competitors available, fighters often don't get the opportunity to round out their skills like men in the lower weight divisions do.


5) False hope for Wilder.

Wilder probably saw the struggles Fury had and got a surge of confidence for the rematch. Maybe he saw some holes he thinks he can exploit.

In all honesty, last night was Fury's worst night. He still won, and overwhelmingly so. But Wallin was supposed to be a punching bag, not the guy to almost stop Fury or rattle him in the final stanza.
Still, he did that with a lot of luck, and by playing the foil. Wilder is not a Southpaw who'll box Fury, like Wallin and Cunnigham. And he's not gonna succeed bringing pressure, since his offense is based on waiting patiently for openings and loading-up shots when opportunity arises.

If Wilder thought that Fury's struggles last night bode well for him he's very wrong.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Wilder definitely messed with Fury's mindstate thats for sure if not the rematch would've been taken place immediately and I feel he did break him a bit that punch he took in rd 12 from Wallin looked like it popped something in his head didn't look right after that one I hope for his sake he finishes up his contract and just retires.

Bwahahahaha!


Wilder was completely embarrassed. He won all of two rounds. Even that final round was a 10-9: after almost recapturing the fight w/ a brutal KO, he spent the remainder of the fight getting smacked around the ring by Fury.

It was pretty clear Fury still wasn't at his best, and he was sand-bagging it. And still Fury took Wilder's best punches and won 10 out of 12 rounds.

That draw was a DISGRACE. One of the worst robberies in Boxing history. Absolutely shameless. It was clear, even if he'd KO'd Wilder in the 1st Round, and forced his body through a wood-chipper, a Draw was all he was ever going to get.

Fury pulling the rug out from under Wilder was poetic justice. Why should he stand for that!?!? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. We all know who the better man is. By far. Wilder does, too. We also know who is making more money and drawing more fans.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Man fury won and got a @$$ whooping at the same time lol Fury tried to take the easy route to the Wilder rematch and got more trouble than he bargained for anyways! Wilder better be careful as well because Ortiz is on a mission.

Looks like you haven;t seen the fight.

Wallin won all of two or three rounds.

Winning on a cut is an easy way out. It was certainly a precarious situation, and required Fury to dig deep AND play smart. But it wasn't like he got the Ruiz treatment Joshua had. Or was put on ***** street like Wilder was against Ruiz.

The 12th Round was what stuck out to me. Fury took off, and Wallin seized the moment. Bad look for the former, who's known for suffering from lack of focus; good on the latter, who showed he wasn't a prop: even Wilder and Joshua haven't shown that kind of determination.

Fury is still the best Heavyweight. The danger of being a Heavyweight, of course, is that any punch - regardless how bad the guy throwing it might be - has the potential to end the fight. There's so much parity. Being ridiculously skilled isn't enough. You need luck and focus, too.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Saw this and checked out another infamous cut fight. After a pretty similar cut, albeit 16ish yrs ago now, Vitali Klitscho didn't fight again for 6 months after being cut by Lewis. A possible template for how things may happen.

Yeah, Fury needs to take full time for proper recovery. This shows just how dangerous Boxing is. Especially at the highest level.

Napoles was stopped by Billy fookin Backus on cuts. Mickey Walker was stopped by Dundee on cuts (albeit, from headbutts - you came to fight in those days; rules were more of a suggestion).

Great fighters lose to lesser men on cuts. FUry learned a lot about himself last night. He also learned not to take anyone too lightly. Even in the Wilder fight, people excuse the Knockdowns, chalking them up to ring-rust, but it actually looks like Tyson had gotten too comfortable.

[The plunger man]

Wait are you secretly Michael Phelps? Just ruling out a trick statement here




I think Ruiz can reach out and touch anyone at the top of the division. Even now I still don't have a concrete read on Wilder's chin, but I do know Ruiz's excellent power. So if it's a question of whether Ruiz could put Wilder down in the same way he did Joshua I really don't know, but could he touch Wilder up and make him way more timid and cautious at the very least? Absolutely. Wilder's bomb of a right will as always be the potential equalizer, but stylistically a Ruiz fight at least makes for a more exciting and fan friendly (read: casual catnip) affair than Fury.
Ruiz has maneuvered himself into a real dark horse position right now, and really Wallin made a pretty strong case for that banner himself tonight.

I share the optimism over Usyk. Hoping for great things. But I think people (including you maybe) are downplaying the extent to which that Grand Canyon eye cut was a factor in the closeness of tonight's fight. I think Fury was pretty much on his way to handling Wallin in similar fashion to Schwarz beforehand. What surprised me most was the extent to which Wallin was able and willing to capitalize on the opportunity presented by a less mobile/visually impaired Fury yanked from his rangy comfort zone. Stamina issues in tandem with Fury's surprising but welcome ferocious turn (which by no accident emerged right after Ben Davison inadvertently learning of the actual ruling on the cut in real time on air; you could practically see his eyes light up) ultimately cost him the fight, but Wallin definitely has no cause for shame and made a fan of me tonight.

On 2 points here one is I’ve never been a believer in fury like denium is...who I’ve been foe and friend with in the past....but I did give fury props for his performance against wilder ...I had fury winning.
The bottom line you cannot maintain your claim to being the best heavyweight in the world by not challenging yourself and struggling with wallin and facing a Swartz does not cut it with me.
Let’s see fury fight a true live dog in a whyte or even a Povetkin and if he handles them with ease then I will give him his full props...but he ain’t and he will not be taken seriously by me till he steps up his competition....I don’t think fury will fight wilder again....something tells me he don’t want to get hit with that right hand again by wilder.
As for Ruiz if he can get inside the long arms of wilder he can cause serious damage to him because he hooks with real venom and speed and we saw with Ortiz catch wilder in close with a left hand and have him out on his feet....I would say Ruiz is more explosive and much quicker than Ortiz that’s for sure.
It’s harder these taller fighters punching down on these shorter fighters and it’s not natural for them punching down...with Ruiz his whole career he has had to reach his taller opponents.

[Doritos]

This is the guy who whips Wilder?? Sure. What ever. Wilder whips him in 8.

This is the guy who WHIPPED Wilder and got robbed on the scorecards.