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If Wilder knocks out Fury in rematch, does he become an ATG?

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  • #91
    Wilder and Fury are allergic to combinations. Joshua wont have any resistance when he gets on the inside vs these two like a fast handed Ruiz. Joshua beats both of them. Wilder is aging himself out just for money. He'll get his generational money by 36 or so and AJ will flatten. Another surprise HW will beat Joshua, not these 2

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    • #92
      No, not even close. He will never be an ATG.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post
        He would still have to get by Miller, Usyk, Povetkin, and Briggs.
        Yes and No

        It would be up to them, to beat him. Not for him to beat them.

        He's already got a strap. He'll have beaten the lineal champ as well (Fury). If he lined up AJ after, then he'd be unifying the division.

        It wouldn't be on him to fight them. He'll have made himself the undisputed heavy champ.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
          Nope. He’s only fought Ortiz and Fury.
          And against both you could argue he lost (ref against Ortiz, judges for fury)

          He needs to fight several of:

          Joshua
          Whyte
          Usyk
          Parker
          Povetkin

          Etc

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          • #95
            Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
            No, not even close. He will never be an ATG.
            Never? That's harsh lol.

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            • #96
              No.

              His best wins will be Ortiz and Fury

              Ortiz is very old and unproven, and Fury is a dried out crack head who spent 3 years obese and in an alcohol and drug binge and clearly isn't in his prime.

              In spite of the above both those guys are very good, but Wilder would need a bit more on his record. Joshua, Usyk, Hrgovic, Dubois are coming through, I'd be more interested in seeing wilder knock some of those off in their primes than Ortiz and Fury

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              • #97
                Better yet, what if............Fury knocks out Wilder?

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                • #98
                  Yes I believe so.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post
                    Never? That's harsh lol.
                    Took him 40 fights to fight a real opponent in Ortiz. Look over Ortiz’resume, who did he ever beat? He was deliberately hyped up by PBC and SHO to make him seem more legit than he is. Then Wilder fights to a draw against an out of shape, inactive Fury who is also a hype job. There are no ATGs in this generation to beat one another. At least AJ has a more substantial resume in half as many fights.

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                    • Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
                      Took him 40 fights to fight a real opponent in Ortiz. Look over Ortiz’resume, who did he ever beat? He was deliberately hyped up by PBC and SHO to make him seem more legit than he is. Then Wilder fights to a draw against an out of shape, inactive Fury who is also a hype job. There are no ATGs in this generation to beat one another. At least AJ has a more substantial resume in half as many fights.
                      Good points. Ortiz and Fury are legit opposition but the rest of his resume is full of dish washers, shoe shiners, and part time shovel salesmen.

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