Why do people think Fury is a great boxer?

[BangEM]

We don't have to agree, but if I don't agree I should f*ck off? That makes no sense. That means you're only interested in hearing the opinions of people who agree with you. Anyway, it's not your opinions that make for sucky threads, it's the way you are so dogmatic and dismissive with it

From a purely relative point of view, Fury is the best of the current crop. He's taken two great fights, and he performed well in both. If the fight with AJ happens, maybe finally Fury will get your praise, I guess. But here's the thing, everyone had written him off before the Wilder fight, and the odds were something like 3-1 for Fury to beat Klitschko aswell. He's clearly a special fighter. You may not like his style, but it gets the job done. I think Fury would dance circles around AJ, it's a bad style for AJ

To continue with your point, your remaining options seem to be:
- Fury is the best of a bad era
- There is someone better than Fury

So, which is it?

I've said it before, I think Fury is an awkward purist, that's the best way to describe him. So, yeah, he's not much fun for the casuals, luckily he's quite entertaining outside of the ring

The fact that you call Fury a bad style for AJ shows you're just like the rest of the dumb casuals that create nuisance on this forum.

AJ is at his best when he's on front foot, while Fury is at his best when fighting on the back foot. AJ is the best short/midrange boxer amongst all the big giants over 6'4 and Fury is the best at long range. So how's it a bad matchup style for AJ when he's at his best when fighting guys from 6'4 and over?

AJ isn't Wilder and he uses high percentage shots. And he can mix it up. So he isn't going to be running after Fury swinging haymakers like the bum, Wilder, did. He's going to work that damaged body and if he catches Fury at midrange or on the inside - it's lights out for Fury. Fury doesn't even have the power to bother him and he's far stronger than Fury - so if Fury ever tries the clinching crap, he'll be at the receiving end of one of those vicious uppercuts that almost took Wlad's head off.

LMAO at Fury dancing around AJ and how his delusional fans like you think he's Ali because of Wilder. LMAO. I didn't see him dance around McDermott when he got battered. And he definitely didn't dance around Chisora in their first fight. I know you would want to bring up the Wlad fight but there's a reason why he ran from the rematch and decided to take to ******* and binge drinking. He knows he won't survive the rematch.

Fury doesn't even believe the crap you just spammed up there. If he did, he wouldn't be fighting bin men on ESPN - he would've taken the 60/40 deal Hearn offered him. A kangaroo who has no belt and can't generate half of the crowd AJ gets, yet he wants a 50/50 deal when he didn't even ask for 50/50 deal when he fought Wilder. He ducked the fight for a reason but he's a gypsy con artist that would lie through his teeth to his gullible/idiotic fans. Tell him to take the AJ fight next at Wembley and I'd be shocked if he makes it to the 12rd.

[BangEM]

Ahh so this is the level of intellect that the class of 2019 rookies display in their post.

I've been around since the days of Delahoya-Mayweather, before you Twitter/short attention span/Low IQ texters took over the forum.

Fu..ck off. I told you to suck ya mum with a straw, you half-witted prick.

Don't ever quote me on my thread and call me a nitwit unprovoked. You're not Fury and I never mentioned your name on the thread. Your type gets their faces punched in. Fu..cking cu.nt.

[QueensburyRules]

I've watched all Fury's fights and the only two decent fights he was "great" in were two shi..tty fights with one being half-decent for 2-3 rds.

- -OK, U like Shi..tty fights.

U still in yer BigBoy trainers?

[evets]

Fury is a hard one to judge. You can take parts of his career in a vacuum and they are either the pinnacle of technical boxing or the nadir. For example his performance against Wlad is cited as a masterclass, despite being boring because he was able to effectively neutralise a style that had been dominant for years. What he did on paper was nothing special, he fought the right fight. What was special was the fact that he was the only one over all those years that could fight the right fight. Yes it was boring to watch. That is because he had him fully neutralised. Fury was a chess master 5 moves ahead of his opponent. Turn him, Feint, Grab. he always knew exactly what to do. Now again, that doesn't make him the best or anything, because that one performance can never be repeated. It could only have happened in that fight. Actual boxers rate the fight because they know what he did to have Wlad afraid to throw.

On the other hand, I watched him uppercut himself live.

I followed Fury when he boxed here, and never rated him. He always carried puppy fat. His fights were sloppy. He was a promoters wet dream, name, size, wit etc. I hated watching him. I watched all his fights. They were free to air here and some down in the local 02, easy to go to. He looked terrible on tv, and looked weak. In person his punches seemed much heavier than they did on screen. That was one of the first things made me realise he is maybe hard to judge. He always said he would be heavyweight champion and we laughed at him. Then he became it. So I now give him the benefit of the doubt. Stuff like his weight loss for Wilder is all media PR, its a great success story but he had lost almost the same amount a few times prior (had to lose a lot even for the Wlad fight). Someone also mention he gets hit and dropped a lot. That's because he is one of the few boxers these days that properly slips a punch. It makes his opponent look better (similar to Floyd, when you watch initially some of his fights seem close then you rewatch and realise how much control he had) but as Fury can let his attention slip, he can get caught.

He also annoys me. He has won me over, I like him. I really didn't when he was younger working out of belfast here. But he is like bloody Hughie Fury. They keep convincing me I will get an enjoyable fight and then I watch it and it's not. Then I say ok, only if they get a good opponent. Then the next fight comes along and they silver tongue me into watching again. I dunno like I said, Fury is a hard one to judge/rate/whatever.

So I guess a summary of the reason why many rate him so highly - he has done 2 things everyone thought was impossible. Won on the cards in Wlads backyard after a shut out and got up from a Wilder punch.

[HeadBodyBodyBody]

The fact that you call Fury a bad style for AJ shows you're just like the rest of the dumb casuals that create nuisance on this forum.

AJ is at his best when he's on front foot, while Fury is at his best when fighting on the back foot. AJ is the best short/midrange boxer amongst all the big giants over 6'4 and Fury is the best at long range. So how's it a bad matchup style for AJ when he's at his best when fighting guys from 6'4 and over?

AJ isn't Wilder and he uses high percentage shots. And he can mix it up. So he isn't going to be running after Fury swinging haymakers like the bum, Wilder, did. He's going to work that damaged body and if he catches Fury at midrange or on the inside - it's lights out for Fury. Fury doesn't even have the power to bother him and he's far stronger than Fury - so if Fury ever tries the clinching crap, he'll be at the receiving end of one of those vicious uppercuts that almost took Wlad's head off.

LMAO at Fury dancing around AJ and how his delusional fans like you think he's Ali because of Wilder. LMAO. I didn't see him dance around McDermott when he got battered. And he definitely didn't dance around Chisora in their first fight. I know you would want to bring up the Wlad fight but there's a reason why he ran from the rematch and decided to take to ******* and binge drinking. He knows he won't survive the rematch.

Fury doesn't even believe the crap you just spammed up there. If he did, he wouldn't be fighting bin men on ESPN - he would've taken the 60/40 deal Hearn offered him. A kangaroo who has no belt and can't generate half of the crowd AJ gets, yet he wants a 50/50 deal when he didn't even ask for 50/50 deal when he fought Wilder. He ducked the fight for a reason but he's a gypsy con artist that would lie through his teeth to his gullible/idiotic fans. Tell him to take the AJ fight next at Wembley and I'd be shocked if he makes it to the 12rd.

And there it is

It's ironic how you are implying that I am a fanboy, when you have a real hardon for AJ

Fury struggled against McDermott, I agree. But that was nearly a decade ago. And we saw how Chisora II was more decisive than their first fight, so I don't know why that is so relevant... Fury absolutely pummelled him in the rematch.

Your point about AJ being a bigger draw than Fury... yes, I just said as much, Fury has an awkward purist style that is not fun for casuals... and then you repeat the point back to me? You just characterised yourself as a business-first casual. The actual boxing element is secondary for you, apparently

It is a bad style matchup for AJ because he has a basic, plodding style, whereas Fury is a mover who uses odd angles. As long as Fury can keep moving, AJ will find it hard to set his feet and will get picked off, never mind getting inside. If it goes to the later rounds, as long as Fury is fit he should be able to outwork AJ, since AJ seems to gas. We've seen how 'up for it' Fury is in the big fights, I don't see any reason why he wouldn't be highly motivated for a fight with AJ at Wembley or wherever. It would be a great event, I hope it happens, just so it will shut you up and you can log off

[HeadBodyBodyBody]

Fury is a hard one to judge. You can take parts of his career in a vacuum and they are either the pinnacle of technical boxing or the nadir. For example his performance against Wlad is cited as a masterclass, despite being boring because he was able to effectively neutralise a style that had been dominant for years. What he did on paper was nothing special, he fought the right fight. What was special was the fact that he was the only one over all those years that could fight the right fight. Yes it was boring to watch. That is because he had him fully neutralised. Fury was a chess master 5 moves ahead of his opponent. Turn him, Feint, Grab. he always knew exactly what to do. Now again, that doesn't make him the best or anything, because that one performance can never be repeated. It could only have happened in that fight. Actual boxers rate the fight because they know what he did to have Wlad afraid to throw.

On the other hand, I watched him uppercut himself live.

I followed Fury when he boxed here, and never rated him. He always carried puppy fat. His fights were sloppy. He was a promoters wet dream, name, size, wit etc. I hated watching him. I watched all his fights. They were free to air here and some down in the local 02, easy to go to. He looked terrible on tv, and looked weak. In person his punches seemed much heavier than they did on screen. That was one of the first things made me realise he is maybe hard to judge. He always said he would be heavyweight champion and we laughed at him. Then he became it. So I now give him the benefit of the doubt. Stuff like his weight loss for Wilder is all media PR, its a great success story but he had lost almost the same amount a few times prior (had to lose a lot even for the Wlad fight). Someone also mention he gets hit and dropped a lot. That's because he is one of the few boxers these days that properly slips a punch. It makes his opponent look better (similar to Floyd, when you watch initially some of his fights seem close then you rewatch and realise how much control he had) but as Fury can let his attention slip, he can get caught.

He also annoys me. He has won me over, I like him. I really didn't when he was younger working out of belfast here. But he is like bloody Hughie Fury. They keep convincing me I will get an enjoyable fight and then I watch it and it's not. Then I say ok, only if they get a good opponent. Then the next fight comes along and they silver tongue me into watching again. I dunno like I said, Fury is a hard one to judge/rate/whatever.

So I guess a summary of the reason why many rate him so highly - he has done 2 things everyone thought was impossible. Won on the cards in Wlads backyard after a shut out and got up from a Wilder punch.

Excellent post, thanks

[BangEM]

Fury is a hard one to judge. You can take parts of his career in a vacuum and they are either the pinnacle of technical boxing or the nadir. For example his performance against Wlad is cited as a masterclass, despite being boring because he was able to effectively neutralise a style that had been dominant for years. What he did on paper was nothing special, he fought the right fight. What was special was the fact that he was the only one over all those years that could fight the right fight. Yes it was boring to watch. That is because he had him fully neutralised. Fury was a chess master 5 moves ahead of his opponent. Turn him, Feint, Grab. he always knew exactly what to do. Now again, that doesn't make him the best or anything, because that one performance can never be repeated. It could only have happened in that fight. Actual boxers rate the fight because they know what he did to have Wlad afraid to throw.

On the other hand, I watched him uppercut himself live.

I followed Fury when he boxed here, and never rated him. He always carried puppy fat. His fights were sloppy. He was a promoters wet dream, name, size, wit etc. I hated watching him. I watched all his fights. They were free to air here and some down in the local 02, easy to go to. He looked terrible on tv, and looked weak. In person his punches seemed much heavier than they did on screen. That was one of the first things made me realise he is maybe hard to judge. He always said he would be heavyweight champion and we laughed at him. Then he became it. So I now give him the benefit of the doubt. Stuff like his weight loss for Wilder is all media PR, its a great success story but he had lost almost the same amount a few times prior (had to lose a lot even for the Wlad fight). Someone also mention he gets hit and dropped a lot. That's because he is one of the few boxers these days that properly slips a punch. It makes his opponent look better (similar to Floyd, when you watch initially some of his fights seem close then you rewatch and realise how much control he had) but as Fury can let his attention slip, he can get caught.

He also annoys me. He has won me over, I like him. I really didn't when he was younger working out of belfast here. But he is like bloody Hughie Fury. They keep convincing me I will get an enjoyable fight and then I watch it and it's not. Then I say ok, only if they get a good opponent. Then the next fight comes along and they silver tongue me into watching again. I dunno like I said, Fury is a hard one to judge/rate/whatever.

So I guess a summary of the reason why many rate him so highly - he has done 2 things everyone thought was impossible. Won on the cards in Wlads backyard after a shut out and got up from a Wilder punch.

This is a solid post from someone from the UK who has actually followed Fury from the beginning of his career (like I have). A lot of these other fickle fans (who would most likely desert him once he loses and jump on the ****wagon of a next boxer) only heard about his fight against Wlad (didn't watch it in realtime) and probably watched the Wilder fight. And they're so adamant in trying to convince everyone that Fury is Ali, lol.

Personally, I don't see anything special in Fury's boxing ability. I've been watching his fights since he was on Channel 5 and used to run his mouth like he does now. And there's a reason why he was never a big draw in the UK. Even when he beat Wlad, most people didn't celebrate him and everyone thought it was a fluke due to how boring the fight was.

He does what he needs to do in the ring and I rate that. But the way some of these guys talk about how he's gonna box people's head off without them laying a pad on him just cracks me up. Fury has been knocked down by no-hopers with no power multiple times and he got battered by McDermott. He's a decent boxer but I hate when people act like he's some invincible ring genius when Fury himself beneath his shenanigans doesn't believe that. If he did, he won't be picking easy fights like he's done for most of his career.

You deserve a rep for this post.

[BangEM]

And there it is

It's ironic how you are implying that I am a fanboy, when you have a real hardon for AJ

Fury struggled against McDermott, I agree. But that was nearly a decade ago. And we saw how Chisora II was more decisive than their first fight, so I don't know why that is so relevant... Fury absolutely pummelled him in the rematch.

Your point about AJ being a bigger draw than Fury... yes, I just said as much, Fury has an awkward purist style that is not fun for casuals... and then you repeat the point back to me? You just characterised yourself as a business-first casual. The actual boxing element is secondary for you, apparently

It is a bad style matchup for AJ because he has a basic, plodding style, whereas Fury is a mover who uses odd angles. As long as Fury can keep moving, AJ will find it hard to set his feet and will get picked off, never mind getting inside. If it goes to the later rounds, as long as Fury is fit he should be able to outwork AJ, since AJ seems to gas. We've seen how 'up for it' Fury is in the big fights, I don't see any reason why he wouldn't be highly motivated for a fight with AJ at Wembley or wherever. It would be a great event, I hope it happens, just so it will shut you up and you can log off

LMAO at Fury using odd angles, lol. You obviously don't watch Fury. And LMAO at thinking AJ is a plodder, loool.

That's the problem with a lot of you Fury fan girls, you're just casuals that started have a hardon for Fury after the Wlad fight. And the crazy thing is: none of you will ever pay 1p to watch him fight, lol. Once he gets spark out, most of you will most likely desert him.

AJ has solid fundamentals and he never ploddes forward when he fights. He probably did against Ruiz after 3rd rd because he was concussed but the normal AJ never ploddes forward. There's a reason why he's the greatest amateur HW the UK has ever produced, while Fury never made it past British level after he got battered by David Price - despite spending more years in the amateur ranks. And you don't get to the finals of the world championships and Olympics by being basic.

Fury is a perfect style matchup for AJ. He's faster than Fury and a far superior counterpuncher compared to Fury. Also, better at short/midrange. He just needs to catch Fury at short/midrange and it will be lights out. AJ is also stronger than him and Fury does grab a lot, so he won't be able to do that.

When Fury finds his balls - he should tell his boss, Arum, he wants to fight AJ. No one wants a trilogy with Windmill. He already ducked the fight once. We want it in 2020 when they're both still in their prime with no excuses.

[BangEM]

LMAO.

Where are the Fury fans?

[Curtis Harper]

By great they mean awkward