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Ortiz proved all this against who? Bryant Jennings, who cant crack an egg lol.Ortiz looked terrible pre Wilder against Allen and Scott, absolutely sluggish and plodding, awful, but thats what happens when you're suffering high blood pressure in a cardio based sport. Ruiz has proven he can get in on big men with AJ and Parker. Wilder has proved he can handle a fast punching young heavyweight with a solid chin against...? Thats right, nobody.
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Ortiz did what Wlad, Joyce, Perez, Rivas couldn't do & that's demolish BJ with ease.
Scott got dropped 5x and lost every round, Allen also was stopped, both men were just surviving.
JP can't punch worth a lick & AJ got dropped by a Wlad that couldn't even drop Jennings.Comment
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Wow, talk about mental gymnastics. Ortiz had high blood pressure, was old, and laboured against fragile Scott and domestic level Allen. He had Wilder needing the doctor in that fight, but didn't have the cardio to matain hes attack. The difference in Ruiz is much younger, and faster, and actually has a decent enough defence to get in. He proved that with Parker and AJ. Never mind Wlad dropped AJ, Sconiers dropped Wilder. The guy wobbled against Molina, so what? You got a guy who never stopped a world class heavy early, and now you got him stopping Ruiz, whos never been near stopped and who fought good young big heavyweights. No evidence to back up your fantasy prediction. What we do know, is you have no idea how Wilder will do with a fast punching hard hitting young heavy because he never fought one. He fought Ortiz who took him late and wobbled him despite being old and ill. And Fury who boxed hes head off despite being a fat drugged up blob for the previous two years. Nothing to suggest he stops Ruiz in one except your wild imagination.Comment
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Wilder's best opponent prior to Fury clowning with him was a 57 year old Ortiz and he nearly knocked him out lol..we saw how wilders spaghetti legs went all wobbly. Then came fury, a man who was maybe 40% that night and we all know how that played out, biggest boxing lesson ever..and I really believe that ruiz would knock him out, ruiz has a solid amateur record and is known for his power something wilder has been avoiding trough out his whole pathetic career..he couldn't even knock out zelenoff
SO dumb!! everyone here trying to argue what heavyweight fought tougher opponents, the answer is none of them!! the heavyweight division is garbage wilder, fury, joshua and now ruiz are the only top heavyweights. any ohter opponent will bw considered garbage..... no point in arguing there is nothing to argue about here untill they fight each other!!Comment
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Ruiz isn’t a threat to Wilder who has experience fighting short fat fighters like him (unlike AJ who seemed perplexed about how to fight small heavyweights). Granted Ruiz has good skills but he’d struggle hard trying to get in proper range against Wilder, And even if he manages to get in on the inside he isn’t a devastating puncher. Ruiz also has **** stamina to bring the type of pressure and alertness to avoid right hands coming in for 12 rounds. It would be for undisputed so we’d see Wilder start earlier than he would normally because he’d try to go get the ultimate prize and seize history. Wilder within 4 rounds TKO.Comment
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No, I do not accept that. Its completely subjective so you can't say that for sure. No two fights are the same nor the decisions made by Ref's and ringside judges.
I'm not going to argue the fact that Fury's count wasn't tight but Jack Reiss said that he wanted to give Fury 'every opportunity' and that if there was 'heavier earlier damage' then he would have waved it off. Fury got up and won the round (as with the first knock down) so it was the right decision to let Fury continue.
Wilder did not deserve to draw that fight, he was soundly beaten and should have lost the rounds that Fury was down, on the cards. Alejandro Rochin's card was an absolute shambles!
BUT...Fury's long count or whether he actually made the count is just as controversial as the Rochin scorecard. Most importantly, purely subjective.Comment
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