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  • GhostofDempsey
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    #81
    Originally posted by Oregonian
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    How many exhibition fights did PAC have?

    Brandon Rios, David Diaz, Mathysse, etc?
    Too many to count. And that was all in his “prime”

    Two, didn’t he already beat the “best” fighter in 2015?
    Wait, that was a duck, right?
    You’re doing the fan boy thing you are accusing others of doing. Manny more than proved himself against much better and more dangerous opposition than Floyd. So let’s not start the resume argument. Floyd beat a one-armed PAC who he readily admits he ducked for five years, or in his own words, he marinated the fight for five years and deserves credit for being “smart”.

    Like most on here have said, he is smart to take these exhibitions for big money. He can no longer compete at Manny’s level and getting in the ring with a real opponent is too risky for Floyd. Hope he stays safe and none of these exhibitions goes wrong.

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    • giant_king
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      #82
      It really doesn't matter who Floyd fights.he can fight sugar ray in his prime and beat him and they'll still hate lol

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      • CoachMac34
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        #83
        Originally posted by tdubb
        Imagine if Manny Pac fought these nobodies, haters would have a fill day.
        It's just a exhibition, relax! If someone wanted to pay you $1M per minute for 9 minutes of easy work would you accept it? Even if you were already wealthy? Yeah, me too.

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        • Oregonian
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          #84
          Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
          You’re doing the fan boy thing you are accusing others of doing. Manny more than proved himself against much better and more dangerous opposition than Floyd. So let’s not start the resume argument. Floyd beat a one-armed PAC who he readily admits he ducked for five years, or in his own words, he marinated the fight for five years and deserves credit for being “smart”.

          Like most on here have said, he is smart to take these exhibitions for big money. He can no longer compete at Manny’s level and getting in the ring with a real opponent is too risky for Floyd. Hope he stays safe and none of these exhibitions goes wrong.
          ———————-

          To avoid a debate you do exactly what all PAC fans do - they don’t want to address PAC’s dodgy resume so they preempt it immediately.

          Manny “proved himself against much better and more dangerous opposition”?

          Really? Is that a fact? PAC has over 50 fights and I don’t even judge him for fights below 126. He fought against great guys, I am not going to ***** on him. But you must be an idiot and a moron if you think Brandon Rios was a credible opponent.

          Or Mosley - he had just lost to Floyd.
          Or Oscar - he had lost to Floyd and wasvweight drained to 147
          Or Margarito- he had been KO’d by Mosley and weight drained to 150
          Or Cotto - weightdrained to 145
          Or Broner - had lost last 3 fights and 1 draw
          Or Mathysse - 2 years removed from a meaningful fight (lost to Danny Garcia)
          Horn - he beat PAC

          PAC holds the record for rematches too.
          Can you name any meaningful WW fighter that PAC fought in the last 7 years? Other than Thurman

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          • GhostofDempsey
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            #85
            Originally posted by Oregonian
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            To avoid a debate you do exactly what all PAC fans do - they don’t want to address PAC’s dodgy resume so they preempt it immediately.

            Manny “proved himself against much better and more dangerous opposition”?

            Really? Is that a fact? PAC has over 50 fights and I don’t even judge him for fights below 126. He fought against great guys, I am not going to ***** on him. But you must be an idiot and a moron if you think Brandon Rios was a credible opponent.

            Or Mosley - he had just lost to Floyd.
            Or Oscar - he had lost to Floyd and wasvweight drained to 147
            Or Margarito- he had been KO’d by Mosley and weight drained to 150
            Or Cotto - weightdrained to 145
            Or Broner - had lost last 3 fights and 1 draw
            Or Mathysse - 2 years removed from a meaningful fight (lost to Danny Garcia)
            Horn - he beat PAC

            PAC holds the record for rematches too.
            Can you name any meaningful WW fighter that PAC fought in the last 7 years? Other than Thurman
            Pac fought prime Barrera, Morales, Bradley and JMM in rematches. He didn't need to fight those tough fights, especially the rematches. He never avoided a tough fight, and again, he fought these opponents at their best. Something Floyd never did in his entire career. He waited out Mosley until he was well past his prime, as well as Cotto and Pac, he fought a faded Oscar and got a gift decision. He got gifts against Castillo and Maidana. Avoided Margarito, Casamayor, Freitas, Williams, Johnston, Forrest, Martinez, Wright, and others. Had JMM come up two weight classes for a catchweight and then failed to make weight. Refused to be weighed on the day of the fight. Drained a still green Canelo down to 152.

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            • thedarkdragon11
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              #86
              Another exhibition? He really is TBE (not The Best Ever)!

              He'll probably fight a Shaolin monk or a Tai-chi master in a boxing exhibition to prove his greatness?

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              • DaNeutral.
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                #87
                Oh no but human rights violations in China doe? Or is it not an issue when an American chooses to do it?

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                • Oregonian
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                  Pac fought prime Barrera, Morales, Bradley and JMM in rematches. He didn't need to fight those tough fights, especially the rematches. He never avoided a tough fight, and again, he fought these opponents at their best. Something Floyd never did in his entire career. He waited out Mosley until he was well past his prime, as well as Cotto and Pac, he fought a faded Oscar and got a gift decision. He got gifts against Castillo and Maidana. Avoided Margarito, Casamayor, Freitas, Williams, Johnston, Forrest, Martinez, Wright, and others. Had JMM come up two weight classes for a catchweight and then failed to make weight. Refused to be weighed on the day of the fight. Drained a still green Canelo down to 152.
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                  Sure they were tough fights and he got beat by Morales and JMM. He got beat. Period.

                  Did you not read what I wrote about PAC fighting Mosley right after Mosley had lost to Floyd? Mosley was coming off a huge KO of Margarito when he got beat silly by Floyd. It was ok for PAC to fight him though?

                  Did you not read what I wrote about PAC fighting a faded and weakened Oscar? Or was that ok with you?

                  Man, you clearly don’t know jack shyt about boxing?
                  JMM is the one that called out Floyd and asked for a catch weight. Google this fact
                  Regardless, a year after getting his ass handed to him, JMM KO’d PAC.

                  After Canelo beat Cintron he called out Floyd right after the fight and offered Floyd the 152 catch weight. You can find this on YouTube, look it up.
                  Floyd did not call out JMM or Canelo.

                  During the promotion for Floyd-Cotto, Cotto confirmed that his team advices him not to fight Floyd at 140. Arum is also on record refusing to put Cotto against Floyd at 147. Again, make Google your friend.

                  All those names you threw out just shows your lack in boxing history. Especially Margarito. A guy who got destroyed by Mosley when he was supposedly the most avoided guy. He also got beat by Paul Williams and Clottey

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                  • microMXL
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Vodkaholic
                    ****, why not? If people offer you a bunch of money to fight scrubs then why not.
                    Good to see canelos dad doing good
                    Yep, agree with this, good for Floyd if they are paying him enough.

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                    • GhostofDempsey
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Oregonian
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                      Sure they were tough fights and he got beat by Morales and JMM. He got beat. Period.

                      Did you not read what I wrote about PAC fighting Mosley right after Mosley had lost to Floyd? Mosley was coming off a huge KO of Margarito when he got beat silly by Floyd. It was ok for PAC to fight him though?

                      Did you not read what I wrote about PAC fighting a faded and weakened Oscar? Or was that ok with you?

                      Man, you clearly don’t know jack shyt about boxing?
                      JMM is the one that called out Floyd and asked for a catch weight. Google this fact
                      Regardless, a year after getting his ass handed to him, JMM KO’d PAC.

                      After Canelo beat Cintron he called out Floyd right after the fight and offered Floyd the 152 catch weight. You can find this on YouTube, look it up.
                      Floyd did not call out JMM or Canelo.

                      During the promotion for Floyd-Cotto, Cotto confirmed that his team advices him not to fight Floyd at 140. Arum is also on record refusing to put Cotto against Floyd at 147. Again, make Google your friend.

                      All those names you threw out just shows your lack in boxing history. Especially Margarito. A guy who got destroyed by Mosley when he was supposedly the most avoided guy. He also got beat by Paul Williams and Clottey
                      All that nonsense you just spouted, and yet, Floyd turned down his biggest payday to date against Margarito. It wasn't until later on he was offered the DLH fight against a faded Oscar.

                      You talk about Pac fighting opponents coming off losses, how about Judah? He lost to Baldomir and Floyd got him coming off a loss. Who did Guerrero and Ortiz have to beat in order to secure a shot at Floyd--the human punching bag Berto. Then, Floyd chooses Berto as his 49th opponent! LMAO. Speaking of Baldomir, that guy had 9 losses going into the fight with Floyd, and he still went the distance.

                      Pac has losses because he took more risks. A true warrior can bounce back from adversity. He wasn't trying to run and clinch his way to a UD victory. Pac was also the smaller fighter in most of his biggest fights. Came up two weight classes to fight Oscar and Manny was still considered the underdog in that fight. Something you casuals fail to acknowledge.

                      Facts are facts, and Canelo still had to weight drain to fight Floyd. Floyd ducked a long list of fighters, even the ones he called out like Winky Wright.

                      Bottom line remains the same--Floyd can deservedly earn his paydays in exhibitions. He clearly cannot compete on the level of a healthy Pacquiao, and these exhibitions suit his safety-first style perfectly.

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