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Those aren't real boxing fans. Neither decision was a robbery. I thought GGG edged out the first fight but the draw was reasonable except for that one card. The second fight was close and Canelo getting the nod made sense. GGG fans complained but the scoring was close as was the fight. The only real complaints should be the Adalaide Byrd scorecard in the first fight. The rest of the scorecards in both fights were pretty on point.
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I am white and from NE US. I just dont rely on ESPN for my boxing "knowledge".
Bread suggested Canelo gets flack because Bread thinks Ca$hnelo sees something in Kovalev. NO SHIT. Every fighter SEES SOMETHING in potential opponent. EVERY. SINGLE. FIGHTER. And this guy is supposed to be a trainer?!? No wonder JRock got KTFO by a PBC bum
And Canelo has had about 100 tests saying hes clean. And what he "failed" for is a contaminant literally in Mexican meat. And when he failed it was the FIRST time he was tested while still living in Mexico.
Canelo eats meat, lives in Mexico, Mexican meat is contaminated, and he was tested in Mexico. What's confusing???
As far as your "numbers" go...from what I've seen about 60% of journalists had GGG winning 1st fight and 60% Canelo winning rematch. But that doesnt matter.
Nearly all of journalists blamed Floyd for the 1st Pac fight negotiations breaking down, but Roach himself said it was their fault. Manny and Roach didnt want to take stricter PED testing...and large portions of the Public SUPPORTED someone ducking tests. Disgusting.
[QUOTE=The D3vil;20044590]If believing GGG won both fights means you hate Canelo, then the overwhelming majority of the public & boxing journalists hate Canelo
I could dig up more "breadbags", but it's not worth the effort.
I dont think Bread has something against Mexicans, but he definitely has something against Canelo.Comment
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[QUOTE=hmc87;20045760]I am white and from NE US. I just dont rely on ESPN for my boxing "knowledge".
Bread suggested Canelo gets flack because Bread thinks Ca$hnelo sees something in Kovalev. NO SHIT. Every fighter SEES SOMETHING in potential opponent. EVERY. SINGLE. FIGHTER. And this guy is supposed to be a trainer?!? No wonder JRock got KTFO by a PBC bum
And Canelo has had about 100 tests saying hes clean. And what he "failed" for is a contaminant literally in Mexican meat. And when he failed it was the FIRST time he was tested while still living in Mexico.
Canelo eats meat, lives in Mexico, Mexican meat is contaminated, and he was tested in Mexico. What's confusing???
As far as your "numbers" go...from what I've seen about 60% of journalists had GGG winning 1st fight and 60% Canelo winning rematch. But that doesnt matter.
Nearly all of journalists blamed Floyd for the 1st Pac fight negotiations breaking down, but Roach himself said it was their fault. Manny and Roach didnt want to take stricter PED testing...and large portions of the Public SUPPORTED someone ducking tests. Disgusting.
Yeah he thinks Canelo is an opportunist and a likely drug cheater. He's not alone except he has more intimate knowledge than most of how boxing works.Comment
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the bold ^^
fcuk the journalists... and fcuk the fans...
they BOTH see, whatever they want to see
FACT: it was clearly obvious that Arum/Pac were avoiding that fight... simply because, Pac could have easily taken the harmless blood test... just like everyone else did...
seriously, how much journalistic integrity did it take to figure that one out?... NONE... it took a small amount of common-sense... and yet... MOST journalists/fans blamed Mayweather, despite the fact that it was clearly obvious who avoided that fight...
MOST journalists disgraced themselves over that debacle
fcuk the journalists (they are NOT REAL journalists anyway)...
... and especially fcuk the fans... they are a shocking source of information, just like bread said...
regarding Canelo... I don't think that bread was really dissing Canelo, but he obviously does not favor him
I agree with most of what bread says about Canelo, including some of the negative... but I cannot understand how he totally ignores the YEARS of lies/bullshlt/avoidance from Team Golovkin
he totally ignores the fact that those guys are clearly cut from a different cloth...
Canelo will fight anyone, Golovkin will not... Canelo is a much more REAL fighter than Golovkin... who has never been real...
Golovkin would have been exposed if they had faced a world-class mover-spoiler like Lara, Ward, Saunders, Andrade... but nope, they avoided ALL of those fights and still to this day have never faced a world-class mover-spoiler
they threatened to do it... with all that "anyone from 154-168" nonsense... and with all that "master at cutting off the ring" nonsense... but they never did it, not once... despite having many opportunities... on each occasion, LYING to their silly fans to avoid those opportunities
FACT: boxing is ALL about matchmaking... bread knows that...
FACT: they said that Willie Monroe was a bigger draw than Lara
wtf ?
I understand the fans choosing not to notice... but how can bread sit there quietly while that happens on his watch?
bread does not favor Canelo, and he clearly favors Golovkin... so I think his viewpoint gets subconsciously skewed on this subject
Golovkin has substance, he is excellent... but he is not real... bread see's the excellent in Golovkin, both in the gym and in the ring... but he does not see through the lies/bullshlt and their selective timid match-makingLast edited by aboutfkntime; 09-08-2019, 06:15 PM.Comment
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3x judges also said Timothy Bradley beat Manny Pacquiao and JCC "drew" with Sweet Pea.
Since when are judges above reproach.
No they didnt
Guys like Terence Crawford & Lennox Lewis had GGG winning. Stop lying.
Some had Canelo winning, but let's not act like most didn't.
[QUOTE=hmc87;20045760]I am white and from NE US. I just dont rely on ESPN for my boxing "knowledge".
Bread suggested Canelo gets flack because Bread thinks Ca$hnelo sees something in Kovalev. NO SHIT. Every fighter SEES SOMETHING in potential opponent. EVERY. SINGLE. FIGHTER. And this guy is supposed to be a trainer?!? No wonder JRock got KTFO by a PBC bum
And Canelo has had about 100 tests saying hes clean. And what he "failed" for is a contaminant literally in Mexican meat. And when he failed it was the FIRST time he was tested while still living in Mexico.
Canelo eats meat, lives in Mexico, Mexican meat is contaminated, and he was tested in Mexico. What's confusing???
As far as your "numbers" go...from what I've seen about 60% of journalists had GGG winning 1st fight and 60% Canelo winning rematch. But that doesnt matter.
Nearly all of journalists blamed Floyd for the 1st Pac fight negotiations breaking down, but Roach himself said it was their fault. Manny and Roach didnt want to take stricter PED testing...and large portions of the Public SUPPORTED someone ducking tests. Disgusting.
LMAO, Charlo is a PBC bum, but most people don't want to fight his ass.
Juan Francisco Estrada lives, trains, and eats in Mexico too. You know what his reaction to Canelo testing positive was?
Gennady Golovkin stuck to his principles and came out a winner in Canelo Alvarez's doping debacleAlvarez twice tested positive for the banned substance, Clenbuterol, in February, and it led to a suspension by the Nevada Athletic Commission and the cancellation of a May 5 rematch between the two. Alvarez blames the positive tests on having eaten contaminated meat in Guadalajara, Mexico.
Others, including former world champion Juan Francisco Estrada of Mexico, aren’t so sure. Estrada told Lance Pugmire of the Los Angeles Times that he eats meat in Sonora, Mexico, all the time. Pugmire asked Estrada why he didn’t test positive.
“I eat it,” Estrada said. “I don’t inject it.”Comment
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This guy talks alot of senseComment
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