Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Loma, Canelo-Kovalev, Gervonta Davis

[Rip Chudd]

Even Stephen Breadman Edwards is a DICK SUCKING hater...acting like hes famous because J Williams didnt get get KTFO again

Its atrocious the way Breadman uses his platform to diss Canelo who has the best resume in boxing AFTER Pacman. And hes fought in 3 divisions going after his 4th.

But Canelo is a "cherry picker" by fighting the guy who KOd most recent opponent (Top 10 LHW) and won a rematch decision with a KD over another Top 10 LHW.

GTFO BreadQueer

Are you high or do you not know how to comprehend what you read? Where did Bread hate on Canelo? He gave him all kinds of props

[MPDKSAB]

I still wanna know if Bread actually reads the comments to these shìts.

Couple things: I will be watching Haney's next fight closely. Two people will never agree on everything but I respect Bread's opinion on everything not J rock because I know it's coming from a non bias place. But from what I seen there's no way Haney beats Lomachenko.

I personally think Haney is more talented & would beat Campbell. I woulda liked to see that fight before Lomachenko fought Campbell. But I think Haney will be competitive against Lomachenko but just like Shawn Porter, I see no way he beats Spence & the same goes for Haney-Lomachenko. I think it will look like Loma-Pedraza & Loma-Campbell but as of right now I'm pretty confident Haney won't win the fight.

Demetrius Andrade did fight a fighter in the ring top 10 at 160 (Sulecki) in his last fight.

[Fire4231]

Bread is spot on with Loma’s assessment. Loma is great just not the greatest of all time or even this generation as Arum is inflating.

What he is saying is exactly what Loma’s supposed “critics,” have been saying.

But Bread has a tendency to put more weight on the reaction than the action.

The action is the same thing that killed GGG, the need to paint a fighter as historical Superman when he is truly just a great fighter that has not reached that status.

Truth is I have been Loma’s biggest supporter, remember when many of his current supporters were into GGG and would down play his talent and P4P worth.

However once GGG started struggling against great competition the fake @ss fans moved to Loma. Turning real boxing fans off.

But bottomline is Arum has made some very bold comments about Loma’s legacy and capability and boxing is always going to call you on your BS.

Been a great run for Loma but Tank can beat him with the right mindset and Haney will win on points and probably knock him down. As far as Teophemo once thought he was there but the over reaction to his close win concerns me also. Feels like he is self-destructing.

Great write up Bread.

[hmc87]

Are you high or do you not know how to comprehend what you read? Where did Bread hate on Canelo? He gave him all kinds of props

From the poster:

• Soapbox time. When did boxing fans become so cynical and hateful? We now live in an age where the Lineal Middleweight Champion is "attacked" because he's not attempting to fight the 1 of 4 Light Heavyweight Champions that some people will only accept as an opponent. I understand that Bivol is considered a greater threat than Kovalev but when in the history of boxing, except in today BOXER fan not BOXING fans age, could a Middleweight Champion "cherry pick" a Light Heavyweight Champion.
  
  From Bread Panther:
  
• I think Canelo does deserve credit for going after Kovalev. But honestly I do think Canelo sees some thing in Kovalev. But listen just because he thinks he sees something that doesn’t mean it’s there. How many times have we seen a fighter “targeted” then upset the plans. Let’s see what happens

Bread had a chance to criticize fans who literally suggest Canelo moving up T W O weight classes is somehow CHERRYPICKING. Bread decided to INSTEAD pretty much agree that fighting Kovalev now is some kind of cherrypick.

Bread also slighted Canelo saying hes NOT clean. And let's not forget Bread believes GGG won both fights. It's a joke

I like Julian Williams as a fighter but he should be looking for REAL TRAINERS who WONT get him KTFO

[Alan Smithee]

From the poster:

• Soapbox time. When did boxing fans become so cynical and hateful? We now live in an age where the Lineal Middleweight Champion is "attacked" because he's not attempting to fight the 1 of 4 Light Heavyweight Champions that some people will only accept as an opponent. I understand that Bivol is considered a greater threat than Kovalev but when in the history of boxing, except in today BOXER fan not BOXING fans age, could a Middleweight Champion "cherry pick" a Light Heavyweight Champion.
  
  From Bread Panther:
  
• I think Canelo does deserve credit for going after Kovalev. But honestly I do think Canelo sees some thing in Kovalev. But listen just because he thinks he sees something that doesn’t mean it’s there. How many times have we seen a fighter “targeted” then upset the plans. Let’s see what happens

Bread had a chance to criticize fans who literally suggest Canelo moving up T W O weight classes is somehow CHERRYPICKING. Bread decided to INSTEAD pretty much agree that fighting Kovalev now is some kind of cherrypick.

Bread also slighted Canelo saying hes NOT clean. And let's not forget Bread believes GGG won both fights. It's a joke

I like Julian Williams as a fighter but he should be looking for REAL TRAINERS who WONT get him KTFO

You are obviously a Canelo guy. Nothing wrong with that but your subjectivity shows. Is Canelo willing to fight any of the light heavyweight champs or just the most vulnerable one? I don't blame him. Moving up two weight classes is hard enough. Why take on guys in their primes when you can avoid it. I do give Canelo credit for the Kovalev fight. It's a big step up. Hopefully there is no catchweight. A reasonable rehydration clause makes sense though. Why is it a joke to believe that GGG may have won both Canelo fights? Rewatch both fights with an open mind and you can easily make a case for a GGG win in the first fight and a draw in the second. Too many fans see what they want to see. I respect both GGG and Canelo and do not favor either one. I enjoyed both fights but had GGG winning the first fight with the second going either way.

[hmc87]

You are obviously a Canelo guy. Nothing wrong with that but your subjectivity shows. Is Canelo willing to fight any of the light heavyweight champs or just the most vulnerable one? I don't blame him. Moving up two weight classes is hard enough. Why take on guys in their primes when you can avoid it. I do give Canelo credit for the Kovalev fight. It's a big step up. Hopefully there is no catchweight. A reasonable rehydration clause makes sense though. Why is it a joke to believe that GGG may have won both Canelo fights? Rewatch both fights with an open mind and you can easily make a case for a GGG win in the first fight and a draw in the second. Too many fans see what they want to see. I respect both GGG and Canelo and do not favor either one. I enjoyed both fights but had GGG winning the first fight with the second going either way.

Kovalev is both the most vulnerable and most accomplished LHW. Hes someone who can make a PPV. Bivol is unknown even if a better fighter today. And that's an IF - no guarantee Bivol beats Kovalev.

And we're talking about a MW whose beaten all other top MWs worth a damn.

Not seeing any microcosm of "cherrypicking" here.

I had GGG 1 a draw or 7-5 Borat

GGG 2 was a close but clear Canelo win 7-5

[Rip Chudd]

From the poster:

• Soapbox time. When did boxing fans become so cynical and hateful? We now live in an age where the Lineal Middleweight Champion is "attacked" because he's not attempting to fight the 1 of 4 Light Heavyweight Champions that some people will only accept as an opponent. I understand that Bivol is considered a greater threat than Kovalev but when in the history of boxing, except in today BOXER fan not BOXING fans age, could a Middleweight Champion "cherry pick" a Light Heavyweight Champion.
  
  From Bread Panther:
  
• I think Canelo does deserve credit for going after Kovalev. But honestly I do think Canelo sees some thing in Kovalev. But listen just because he thinks he sees something that doesn’t mean it’s there. How many times have we seen a fighter “targeted” then upset the plans. Let’s see what happens

Bread had a chance to criticize fans who literally suggest Canelo moving up T W O weight classes is somehow CHERRYPICKING. Bread decided to INSTEAD pretty much agree that fighting Kovalev now is some kind of cherrypick.

Bread also slighted Canelo saying hes NOT clean. And let's not forget Bread believes GGG won both fights. It's a joke

I like Julian Williams as a fighter but he should be looking for REAL TRAINERS who WONT get him KTFO

Dude you are reaching. He said Canelo sees something in Kovalev, so what? He went on to say other fighters have said the same and come up short when the fight happened. Heck look at Mikey Garcia, he said it until he got in the ring and Spence showed him how different it really was. I think you're trying to find something that isn't there bro.

[Alan Smithee]

Kovalev is both the most vulnerable and most accomplished LHW. Hes someone who can make a PPV. Bivol is unknown even if a better fighter today. And that's an IF - no guarantee Bivol beats Kovalev.

And we're talking about a MW whose beaten all other top MWs worth a damn.

Not seeing any microcosm of "cherrypicking" here.

I had GGG 1 a draw or 7-5 Borat

GGG 2 was a close but clear Canelo win 7-5

I never used the term cherry pick. Canelo is smart for taking the Kovalev fight. Risk versus reward. Bivol, Beterbiev, and Gvozdyk are all too young and strong. Why fight one of those guys when you can fight an aging Kovalev? Like you said Kovalev is well known. I'm not knocking Canelo just telling it like it is. Both Canelo/GGG fights were intriguing and I would love to see a third. The Canelo/Kovalev fight should be a good one. Canelo takes a good shot and is a terrific body puncher. It seems like every shot to Kovalev's body hurts him. Should be interesting!

[MASTERBX]

If Breadman hated lil red he could have simply called him a convicted drug cheat who doesn't
deserve to box again! F%$#king snowflakes!

[SweetPbfAli]

Kovalev is both the most vulnerable and most accomplished LHW. Hes someone who can make a PPV. Bivol is unknown even if a better fighter today. And that's an IF - no guarantee Bivol beats Kovalev.

And we're talking about a MW whose beaten all other top MWs worth a damn.

Not seeing any microcosm of "cherrypicking" here.

I had GGG 1 a draw or 7-5 Borat

GGG 2 was a close but clear Canelo win 7-5

He's been pretty consistent about Canelo. He loves dude but is also honest when he feels he deserves critique.