Has Wilder been ducking Andy Ruiz?

[The Big Dunn]

They are both PBC fighters, uncle Al likes to keep his cultish fighters in house where possible. Hes matched Wilder against many other PBC Heavies but not Andy Ruiz Jr? Wilder has never mentioned his name until just recent when it was time for a bit of Deontay Wilder clout chasing.

Is he ducking? Wilder, Fury, plenty of Wilder and Deontay Ruiz fans been mocking Joshua for losing to Ruiz but Wildes never fought him or made a move to fight him. Seems a bit strange that their paths have never crossed considering the small stable that the PBC has.

Personally i think its a duck, i think con man Haymon has kept Wilder away from YET ANOTHER prime heavyweight, its a shame Ruiz hasnt lost a limb at some point cuz that could of tempted Wilder in for a fight.

Al Haymon earned a BA and MBA from Harvard, one f the most prestigious universities in the world. He has never been arrested. He has run successful, legitimate businesses for decades.Why do you refer to him as a con man?

[DaNeutral.]

Al Haymon earned a BA and MBA from Harvard, one f the most prestigious universities in the world. He has never been arrested. He has run successful, legitimate businesses for decades.Why do you refer to him as a con man?

Cuz he's a con man. He's bad for boxing he needs taking to court by some of his fighter, especially Luis Ortiz. Cost him millions and a chance at 4 World titles, also wilder as haymon has cost him much more money and the chance at undisputed.

Wilder is so mentally dumb he nearly qualified for the special Olympics and con man scum bag al haymon has taken advantage of his fighters and ruined their chances of big fights and big money so he can make his own business moves.

Con man needs removing from the sport

[The Big Dunn]

Cuz he's a con man. He's bad for boxing he needs taking to court by some of his fighter, especially Luis Ortiz. Cost him millions and a chance at 4 World titles, also wilder as haymon has cost him much more money and the chance at undisputed.

Wilder is so mentally dumb he nearly qualified for the special Olympics and con man scum bag al haymon has taken advantage of his fighters and ruined their chances of big fights and big money so he can make his own business moves.

Con man needs removing from the sport

he has no criminal record that I am aware of and all of his business ventures are legitimate.

Why is he bad for boxing? His fighters sell PPV's and he has boxing programming on regular TV and cable.

He also made those fighters money. They haven't chosen to leave him. He has given many other fighters title shots and helped them earn millions of dollars. He was accused of violating the Ali act, which was proven to be false.

He just had a successful PPV with Manny. He has major PPV fights lined up for all his top guys (Wilder, Spence). He gave us a FOTY candidate at 154 in Hurd/Jrock.

You're only calling him a con man and bad for the sport because he is black and has tried to put the sport under one umbrella. If I recall you felt this was something that was a good for the sport, having one person running it as a "commissioner".

[DaNeutral.]

he has no criminal record that I am aware of and all of his business ventures are legitimate.

Why is he bad for boxing? His fighters sell PPV's and he has boxing programming on regular TV and cable.

He also made those fighters money. They haven't chosen to leave him. He has given many other fighters title shots and helped them earn millions of dollars. He was accused of violating the Ali act, which was proven to be false.

He just had a successful PPV with Manny. He has major PPV fights lined up for all his top guys (Wilder, Spence). He gave us a FOTY candidate at 154 in Hurd/Jrock.

You're only calling him a con man and bad for the sport because he is black and has tried to put the sport under one umbrella. If I recall you felt this was something that was a good for the sport, having one person running it as a "commissioner".

You saying I got a problem with black people?

[The Big Dunn]

You saying I got a problem with black people?

I'm just commenting on why you labeled Haymon as a con man and bad for boxing and pointing out the facts don't support either opinion.

[DaNeutral.]

I'm just commenting on why you labeled Haymon as a con man and bad for boxing and pointing out the facts don't support either opinion.

I just ****ing told you why I got a problem with Al haymon. Its got nothing to do with colour. What you do is hint at racism but get all twisty when it's time to confirm that you are accusing ppl of being racists. If you guna say it grow some balls and say it, or stop hinting at it.

Personally I think it just highlights your own racism. I'm not guna mince around like a fairy I just say it if I think it, you sir are a racist who just presumes white people are all secret racists which in my eyes makes you an anti white racist.

And I don't even think you realise half the people your accusing of being white racists are not even white, you just presume cuz they speaking I'll of Al haymon. That's how narrow minded and racist you are.

[The Big Dunn]

I just ****ing told you why I got a problem with Al haymon. Its got nothing to do with colour. What you do is hint at racism but get all twisty when it's time to confirm that you are accusing ppl of being racists. If you guna say it grow some balls and say it, or stop hinting at it.

Personally I think it just highlights your own racism. I'm not guna mince around like a fairy I just say it if I think it, you sir are a racist who just presumes white people are all secret racists which in my eyes makes you an anti white racist.

And I don't even think you realise half the people your accusing of being white racists are not even white, you just presume cuz they speaking I'll of Al haymon. That's how narrow minded and racist you are.

You gave a n opinion about what Ortiz should do. You have no idea if he cost him money or made him money. So your reasoning is fake and everyone can see through it.

I posted why I had an issue with your post. If I thought you were a racist I'd post that as I have with any other poster. The only reason it "hints at racism" to you is because I called you out for labelling a black man that has a BA and MBA from Harvard and no criminal record a "con man". Is there another reason other than his race why you did that? Only you know. It surely isn't because he didn't allow Ortiz to fight AJ.

I didn't presume anything. I asked you a question based on your post. You gave a BS response, which I refuted with facts.

Now you are flat out lying. I didn't post or imply you were white or a racist. I posted that you're only calling him a con man and bad for the sport because he is black and has tried to put the sport under one umbrella. That doesn't make you white by default.

I supported that claim by pointing out how you were in favor of this when other promoters tried to do same. Notice you didn't refute that point or post I was incorrect.