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  • danceswithfire
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    #21
    Originally posted by Ray*
    Yep, too many self entitled people these days. If I was shakur I would be glad the fight is happening there, maybe I can pick up a couple of Latino fans on the way, maybe the arena would be full if they turned up etc.

    Nope someone has to see this as a negative! Like they should be having it in shakur front room with 25 members of his extended family. Like that’s what would bring in the fame and money for him... Gosh, is this why American boxers don’t really like fighting outside of America? With dumb mentality like this?
    possiby.. it's a major advantage for US fighters , america is where you really make it big and they dont have to travel

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    • MusaWorld
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      #22
      Originally posted by DaNeutral.
      So people are moaning that a fight between 2 Americans isnt in a neutral location based on the amount of black or Mexican people live in the city? What is happening to Americans?
      The reality is that Mexicans root for their own and are extremely bias when it comes to boxers of their ethnicity. Mexicans are tribalistic, nationalistic and xenophobix. Putting a Black American boxer in a majority mexican city while he's fighting a mexican is a disaster for him. The crowd will be against him all fight long.

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      • Stokely
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        #23
        Originally posted by danceswithfire
        well, isnt that the point of the thread?...the fight happening in neutral ground

        or you just want to say the obvious that arum is a scumbag coz if that's the case then you have a poor argument here
        Neutral ground is a place like Chicago where the Black and Mexican population are neck and neck. Arum sent Shakur to fight in a city where there are no black people

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        • kidbazooka
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          #24
          This stokely clown is a fuxckinn full blown racist always bashing non black fighters and always race baiting.

          Ban this clown.

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          • MusaWorld
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            #25
            Originally posted by kidbazooka
            This stokely clown is a fuxckinn full blown racist always bashing non black fighters and always race baiting.

            Ban this clown.
            Lmao all you do is report people like a little b#tch. Wasn't I suppose to be banned after you reported me, what happened Jose?

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            • DuckAdonis
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              #26
              What a pathetic thread

              Bob Arum just isn't afraid to let his fighters fight outside of their hometown. That's how confident the is in his fighters. He did the same with Jose Ramirez and Lomachenko. Did he sold them out? Did he sold Jose Ramirez out to fight in Hookers backyard to pander to African Americans? What a dumb thread.

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              • DaNeutral.
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                #27
                I thought American fighters and American men were meant to be real men? I swear all they do is cry and moan and complain. I hope American women are less feminine.

                Maybe they shoulda sent their women over there to Nam. Could of been sorted.

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                • danceswithfire
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Stokely
                  Neutral ground is a place like Chicago where the Black and Mexican population are neck and neck. Arum sent Shakur to fight in a city where there are no black people
                  Chicago, Illinois Population 2019 (Demographics, Maps ...

                  worldpopulationreview.com › us-cities › chicago-population
                  Jul 11, 2019 - Chicago Demographics White: 49.14% Black or African American: 30.51% Other race: 11.19% Asian: 6.22%
                  Area Code(s)‎: ‎224‎ / ‎312‎ / ‎708‎ / ‎773‎ / ‎847 Water Area (km²)‎: ‎17.62 (6.80 mi²)
                  Land Area (km²)‎: ‎588.81 (227.34 mi²) Density (km²)‎: ‎4,595.71

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                  • DuckAdonis
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Stokely
                    First of all, Dallas is Errol’s hometown and where the vast majority of his fan base resides. Second of all, the black population in Dallas is huge, Mexicans do not outnumber Black people by a significant margin at all like they do in Reno, NV. Finally, most of the people at the Spence vs. Garcia fight were not mexican, that’s a myth started by mexicans themselves with no sources. Evidence suggest that most of the people there were black:


                    Proof #1: Errol Spence had better TV Ratings than Mikey Garcia

                    Spence vs. Peterson, January 20th, 2018
                    The fight averaged 637,000 viewers and peaked at 695,000 viewers
                    source: https://www.boxingscene.com/spence-p...on-sho--124567

                    Garcia vs. Lipinets, March 10th, 2018
                    The fight averaged 618,000 viewers and peaked at 689,000 viewers
                    source: https://www.boxingscene.com/garcia-l...owtime--126177

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                    Spence vs. Ocampo, June 16th, 2018
                    The fight averaged 683,000 viewers and peaked at 726,000 viewers
                    source: https://www.boxingscene.com/showtime...iewers--129268

                    Garcia vs. Easter, July 28th, 2018
                    The fight averaged 680,000 viewers and peaked at 725,000 viewers
                    source: https://www.boxingscene.com/garcia-e...iewers--130478

                    NOTE: Errol Spence was fighting a mandatory challenger no one was familiar with and was still able to get a higher average viewership and peak than Mikey Garcia who was fighting a unification fight with Robert Easter who at the time was the longest reigning lightweight champion

                    Proof #2: Errol Spence sells more tickets and has larger crowds at his events

                    Spence vs. Peterson, January 20th, 2018
                    On fight night, in front of 12,107, Spence broke Peterson down mentally and physically eventually forcing Peterson's trainer Barry Hunter to stop the fight a second into round 8.
                    source: https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...arclays-center

                    Garcia vs. Lipinets, March 10th, 2018
                    Garcia's bout against Lipinets drew 7,800 fans at Freeman Coliseum in San Antonio
                    source: http://fightnights.com/2018/05/18/40...-cow-in-boxing

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                    Spence vs. Ocampo June 16th, 2018
                    In front of a sellout crowd of 12,604, Spence knocked Ocampo out in round 1 to retain his IBF title.
                    source: https://www.boxingscene.com/errol-sp...esults--129189

                    Garcia vs. Easter, July 28th, 2018
                    Before a crowd of 12,560, Garcia dropped Easter in round 3 on his way to a unanimous decision win with scores of 116–111, 117–110 and 118–109, to become the unified WBC and IBF lightweight champion.
                    source: https://www.boxingscene.com/mikey-ga...esults--130406

                    NOTE: Staples Center has a maximum capacity of 21k, but Mikey could only draw in 12,560 fans. Errol Spence drew in a sellout crowd of 12,604. If Spence fought Ocampo in a larger venue, he would've definitely reached the 13k mark.

                    Proof #3: Errol Spence has more fans

                    Evidence of this is their social media following, neither Errol or Mikey do things outside of boxing which would gain them a significant amount of followers from non-boxing fans so their social media following should be an accurate indicator of how large their fan bases are

                    Instagram Followers:
                    Errol Spence: 487k
                    Mikey Garcia: 262k

                    Twitter Followers:
                    Errol Spence: 130k
                    Mikey Garcia: 111k

                    Proof #4: The name "Errol Spence" is more searched than "Mikey Garcia" according to google trends
                    This guy is mentally ill

                    You need some help buddy. Your victim mentality and obsession with race is not healthy. You really need to check yourself

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                    • kidbazooka
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by MusaWorld
                      Lmao all you do is report people like a little b#tch. Wasn't I suppose to be banned after you reported me, what happened Jose?
                      You’ll be banned shortly now Jerome.

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