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  • #21
    Originally posted by paulf View Post
    Does anyone have any doubt given the way Fury's positive test went?

    We would have never even heard of this if someone hadn't leaked it.
    Nope I knew it would go the same way as Fury, soon as you get your solicitors involved with UKAD, then it’s a wrap.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by kafkod View Post
      UKAD didn't let it go.

      They tried to suspend him, which would have prevented him from fighting, and he appealed against the suspension and was then cleared to fight by an independent tribunal who are not part of UKAD or the BBBoC.
      I was unaware of these things,do you have a link I can see that says that?

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      • #23
        Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
        Whyte was allowed to fight.

        Miller didn’t even bother applying for his boxing license and the Joshua camp moved on to Ruiz.
        You said Miller wasnt allowed to fight, he could have applied for a boxing Licence at any other state in the US and he probably would have been granted a Licence. To say he wasnt allowed to fight simply isn't true

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        • #24
          Originally posted by kafkod View Post
          Because he appealed against the test result, which he was entitled to do, and because he had passed a VADA test which came up negative for the same substance just 2 days previously, the independent legal/medical tribunal which rules on all UK doping cases held an emergency hearing, looked at the evidence, and cleared him to fight.

          If he was juiced up, then why did VADA clear him in every test they took during the same period as the UKAD tests?

          If he is guilty, then who is more at fault, UKAD for catching him and trying to suspend him - which we would have known about, because the fight would have been called off - or VADA for passing him as clean?
          Simple explanation:

          Pass the VADA test.
          Take microdoses following VADA test.
          Got surprised with a UKAD tests right after microdosing.
          Tests positive in UKAD test.
          Clean tests thereafter with properly timed microdoses are out of his system.

          UKAD allowed him to fight because the B sample couldn't be tested and positive test confirmed before the fight took place.

          UKAD allowing him to fight had nothing to do with "clearing" him or with exculpatory evidence. UKAD couldn't justify pulling him out of the fight when his appeal/B sample was still pending.

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          • #25
            Did Hearn also knew the out come of AJ/Ruiz?

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            • #26
              Originally posted by kushking View Post
              I was unaware of these things,do you have a link I can see that says that?
              Until the procedure is complete, and the result is announced, no details of Whyte's specific case will be made public. These quotes are from UKAD's website outlining what happens after a suspected Anti-Doping Rule Violation (ADVR)



              "There are 10 ADRVs that can result in a sanction. If it is decided that the athlete has a case to answer in relation to a possible ADRV then a Notice of Charge will be issued to the athlete detailing:

              The Adverse Analytical Finding (if applicable)

              The ADRV(s) the athlete / ASP is charged with committing

              A summary of the facts and evidence relied upon in support of such charge

              A notice of provisional suspension to be imposed on the athlete / ASP (if applicable)

              The consequences if it is established that the athlete has committed the ADRV charged

              The athlete’s right to promptly request the analysis of the B-sample (if applicable)

              If the A-sample Adverse Analytical Finding is for a prohibited substance, other than a specified substance, a mandatory provisional suspension will be imposed.

              A provisional suspension can only be imposed if the athlete is given either:

              An opportunity for a provisional hearing

              An opportunity for an expedited hearing"


              https://www.ukad.org.uk/violations/results-management

              This tallies with Hearn's account of what happened after Whyte was notified that UKAD had charged him with an ADRV 3 days before the fight. He asked for an expedited hearing without waiting for his B sample to be analysed.

              The hearing was conducted by the National Anti Doping Panel, who are an independent legal and medical tribunal, not part of UKAD or any sporting organisation. The NADP ruling was that there should be no provisional suspension, so the BBBoC cleared him to fight.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by BennyBlanco View Post
                Simple explanation:

                Pass the VADA test.
                Take microdoses following VADA test.
                Got surprised with a UKAD tests right after microdosing.
                Tests positive in UKAD test.
                Clean tests thereafter with properly timed microdoses are out of his system.

                UKAD allowed him to fight because the B sample couldn't be tested and positive test confirmed before the fight took place.

                UKAD allowing him to fight had nothing to do with "clearing" him or with exculpatory evidence. UKAD couldn't justify pulling him out of the fight when his appeal/B sample was still pending.
                Whyte was popped for metabolites of an anabolic steroid. Nobody micro doses with steroids 3 weeks before a fight. Roids don't work in micro doses, you need a full cycle of full doses to get any benefit.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                  Whyte was popped for metabolites of an anabolic steroid. Nobody micro doses with steroids 3 weeks before a fight. Roids don't work in micro doses, you need a full cycle of full doses to get any benefit.
                  Then Whyte is just foolish. Taking tainted supplements once is an accident. Doing it a second time is just dumb.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by BennyBlanco View Post
                    Then Whyte is just foolish. Taking tainted supplements once is an accident. Doing it a second time is just dumb.
                    You would have to be beyond foolish to micro dose with an anabolic steroid 3 weeks before a fight, or to believe that a pro athlete would do something so completely pointless.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                      You would have to be beyond foolish to micro dose with an anabolic steroid 3 weeks before a fight, or to believe that a pro athlete would do something so completely pointless.
                      Yet accidentally taking tainted supplements or mistakenly ingesting a banned substance TWICE isn't beyond foolish??

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