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Hearn says Whyte has a hearing in Oct & he already knows the outcome
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Originally posted by kafkod View PostUKAD didn't let it go.
They tried to suspend him, which would have prevented him from fighting, and he appealed against the suspension and was then cleared to fight by an independent tribunal who are not part of UKAD or the BBBoC.
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Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View PostWhyte was allowed to fight.
Miller didn’t even bother applying for his boxing license and the Joshua camp moved on to Ruiz.
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Originally posted by kafkod View PostBecause he appealed against the test result, which he was entitled to do, and because he had passed a VADA test which came up negative for the same substance just 2 days previously, the independent legal/medical tribunal which rules on all UK doping cases held an emergency hearing, looked at the evidence, and cleared him to fight.
If he was juiced up, then why did VADA clear him in every test they took during the same period as the UKAD tests?
If he is guilty, then who is more at fault, UKAD for catching him and trying to suspend him - which we would have known about, because the fight would have been called off - or VADA for passing him as clean?
Pass the VADA test.
Take microdoses following VADA test.
Got surprised with a UKAD tests right after microdosing.
Tests positive in UKAD test.
Clean tests thereafter with properly timed microdoses are out of his system.
UKAD allowed him to fight because the B sample couldn't be tested and positive test confirmed before the fight took place.
UKAD allowing him to fight had nothing to do with "clearing" him or with exculpatory evidence. UKAD couldn't justify pulling him out of the fight when his appeal/B sample was still pending.
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Originally posted by kushking View PostI was unaware of these things,do you have a link I can see that says that?
"There are 10 ADRVs that can result in a sanction. If it is decided that the athlete has a case to answer in relation to a possible ADRV then a Notice of Charge will be issued to the athlete detailing:
The Adverse Analytical Finding (if applicable)
The ADRV(s) the athlete / ASP is charged with committing
A summary of the facts and evidence relied upon in support of such charge
A notice of provisional suspension to be imposed on the athlete / ASP (if applicable)
The consequences if it is established that the athlete has committed the ADRV charged
The athlete’s right to promptly request the analysis of the B-sample (if applicable)
If the A-sample Adverse Analytical Finding is for a prohibited substance, other than a specified substance, a mandatory provisional suspension will be imposed.
A provisional suspension can only be imposed if the athlete is given either:
An opportunity for a provisional hearing
An opportunity for an expedited hearing"
https://www.ukad.org.uk/violations/results-management
This tallies with Hearn's account of what happened after Whyte was notified that UKAD had charged him with an ADRV 3 days before the fight. He asked for an expedited hearing without waiting for his B sample to be analysed.
The hearing was conducted by the National Anti Doping Panel, who are an independent legal and medical tribunal, not part of UKAD or any sporting organisation. The NADP ruling was that there should be no provisional suspension, so the BBBoC cleared him to fight.
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Originally posted by BennyBlanco View PostSimple explanation:
Pass the VADA test.
Take microdoses following VADA test.
Got surprised with a UKAD tests right after microdosing.
Tests positive in UKAD test.
Clean tests thereafter with properly timed microdoses are out of his system.
UKAD allowed him to fight because the B sample couldn't be tested and positive test confirmed before the fight took place.
UKAD allowing him to fight had nothing to do with "clearing" him or with exculpatory evidence. UKAD couldn't justify pulling him out of the fight when his appeal/B sample was still pending.
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Originally posted by kafkod View PostWhyte was popped for metabolites of an anabolic steroid. Nobody micro doses with steroids 3 weeks before a fight. Roids don't work in micro doses, you need a full cycle of full doses to get any benefit.
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Originally posted by BennyBlanco View PostThen Whyte is just foolish. Taking tainted supplements once is an accident. Doing it a second time is just dumb.
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Originally posted by kafkod View PostYou would have to be beyond foolish to micro dose with an anabolic steroid 3 weeks before a fight, or to believe that a pro athlete would do something so completely pointless.
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