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  • Mrsantiago
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    #11
    Originally posted by icha
    P4P oscar beats any of them... now oscar at 154 wasnt really great there...
    imho prime oscar was better than prime floyd...
    Good thing your opinion doesn’t count.

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      #12
      Oscar was a huge Lw he literally destroys Mikey and Loma.

      He beats Spence and Crawford maybe even stopping Crawford who has looked pretty chinny at times.

      Canelo and cotto would be very tough fights.

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        #13
        Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
        Let’s break down those losses. He was robbed in one fight against Mosley. I felt he beat Floyd 115-113–and that is past prime Oscar, he had Tito beat but chose the wrong strategy in the closing rounds, and he was washed up against a prime Pacquiao. Hopkins was a large MW, much bigger than Oscar. He was elite in his prime, no doubt.
        Good thing your not an actual referee. Explain how you came to that score under the unified rules of boxing and please don’t say activity or aggression because that’s is not actual scoring criteria. I’m not trying to be funny I’m just curious.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Roadblock
          The weight killed Oscar against Manny, if the fight was at 154 it would have been an entirely different fight where Oscar is strong and has resistance, going from being 20lb heaver than Manny on fight night , to what happened a 2lb lighter than Manny fighter,.

          It amazes me the way Manny fans side step the dead man walking that was Oscar, worst case in history of a drained fighter in such a big fight , Dawson Ward runs second followed by Leonard Lalonde.

          The 163 lb version of Oscar that Floyd sc****d by would have beat Manny in my view.
          Can’t blame Pac for Oscar looking like death at 147. Oscar was at 147 for a fight with Floyd in September, Floyd retired so Oscar hung around for several months at a weight he could no longer sustain. I really believe it was more than just fighting at 147 that wrecked Oscar.

          That said, I’ve heard few, if any fans, who don’t acknowledge Oscar’s dreadful condition that night.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Roadblock
            The weight killed Oscar against Manny, if the fight was at 154 it would have been an entirely different fight where Oscar is strong and has resistance, going from being 20lb heaver than Manny on fight night , to what happened a 2lb lighter than Manny fighter,.

            It amazes me the way Manny fans side step the dead man walking that was Oscar, worst case in history of a drained fighter in such a big fight , Dawson Ward runs second followed by Leonard Lalonde.

            The 163 lb version of Oscar that Floyd sc****d by would have beat Manny in my view.
            I’m not sure the Oscar who fought Floyd beats Manny either. He just didn’t have an answer for Manny’s speed and explosiveness at that juncture of his career. Remember Manny came up two weight classes from LW as well.

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              #16
              I’ll take Loma at 130...

              With a day of the fight weigh in

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              • icha
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                #17
                Originally posted by Mrsantiago
                Good thing your opinion doesn’t count.
                it counts for me, thats all that matters... feel free to express yours, nothing wrong about it...

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by 4truth
                  I’ll take Loma at 130...

                  With a day of the fight weigh in
                  Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha

                  Hell no!!!!

                  Dude is a midget compared to Oscar who in his prime was skilled, fast and can knock down a wall with that left hook, he takes Lomas Head clean off.

                  Loma out of all the guys mentioned actually has the least chance at beating Oscar followed by Mikey.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                    I’m not sure the Oscar who fought Floyd beats Manny either. He just didn’t have an answer for Manny’s speed and explosiveness at that juncture of his career. Remember Manny came up two weight classes from LW as well.
                    It was insane that Manny was campaigning at 130, then moves up to 135 for one fight and was immediately challenged by Dela Hoya at 147. He technically moved up three classes to fight Oscar. Crazy.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Mrsantiago
                      Good thing your not an actual referee. Explain how you came to that score under the unified rules of boxing and please don’t say activity or aggression because that’s is not actual scoring criteria. I’m not trying to be funny I’m just curious.
                      Referee? Did you mean judge? For one thing it was a close fight, so I’m not sure why you would be so appalled that I score it in favor of Oscar. But, it’s a good thing you aren’t a judge, because activity and aggression sure do count in the eyes of judges. Unless of course you go strictly by punch stats, which is flawed and not the end all be all to judging fights.

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