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  • #41
    Originally posted by Tosaken View Post
    Robert Garcia says Mikey is the best fighter he has ever coached, and had his way with Maidana when they sparred. Mikey is probably top 5 as far as technical skills in the game today.
    People now downplay Spence's win because he didn't KO MG, even though he said he wanted to display his boxing skills. Pac will get beaten by Spence badly. Spence is the real deal. Manny has little experience vs southpaws, and Spence is an elite southpaw.
    you talk of pac like he's a lot of levels below mikey lol. pac likes southpaws. the few he fought against got beaten up real bad.

    and spence hasn't beaten anyone badly as much or as badly as pac has did to a lot of his opponents. either they get beaten to a pulp, or hid in their shell.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Boxknowledge75 View Post
      Prime pac? Against the Crawford who got wobbled by a washed up Gamboa?
      I’m not sold on Crawford just yet. The only fighter who can give a prime pac trouble will always be Marquez.
      Pac has fought a lot of counter punchers but he’s aggression was just too much. Specially for Crawford who really hasn’t fought a top5 Ww.
      How long have you been watching the sport to not know that styles make fight and not your triangle theory nonsense? Mayweather got wobble many times by lesser foes, but yet still outclassed Canelo, Dela Hoya, Pac, Cotto and Marquez.

      Foreman killed Frazier, got knocked out silly by Ali and Ali went life and death with Frazier.

      Me thinks Bud was weak at 130 and has been draining himself. Same thing was the case with Cotto who was rocked by the slightest wind at lower weights, but at higher weights he's able to absorb more punishment to due to being less weight drained.

      I see Bud eating big shots at the higher weights and is not fazed. Look at Canelo who was getting wobbled by Cotto's brother at Welterweight, but is now able to withstand GGG at middle weight.

      Freddie didn't want anything to do with Bud for a reason. He himself said if he doesn't put Pac in fights if he sees no chance of Pac winning. He said Pac should stay clear of Crawford, because Crawford is a version of Mayweather with power.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Sustanon View Post
        The fight PAC vs Spence or PAC vs Crawford will not push through
        Their promoters wont let PAC destroy their future cashcow
        They believe PAC can beat them both period
        This is the truth..

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Twako View Post
          you talk of pac like he's a lot of levels below mikey lol. pac likes southpaws. the few he fought against got beaten up real bad.

          and spence hasn't beaten anyone badly as much or as badly as pac has did to a lot of his opponents. either they get beaten to a pulp, or hid in their shell.

          Mikey is quite a bit technically better than Pacquiao. It is Pac's unorthodox style that makes him hard to prepare for.

          When was the last time Pac fought a southpaw? Probably have to go back 10 years.

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          • #45
            If Pacquiao is going to continue to fight there shouldn't be any excuse on fighting the best available opponent. He was willing to fight Thurman because he seemed more vulnerable. He should fight Spence or Crawford if those fights are available.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Twako View Post
              you talk of pac like he's a lot of levels below mikey lol. pac likes southpaws. the few he fought against got beaten up real bad.

              and spence hasn't beaten anyone badly as much or as badly as pac has did to a lot of his opponents. either they get beaten to a pulp, or hid in their shell.
              You dont realize the size difference when Spence wants to be physical, Spence is a lot bigger than Thurman with no injuries layoffs or nearly koed etc etc, he is big, punches straight can fight like a dog or box like a technician, Errol is very rounded and much better than current Thurman.

              And the other thing is you dont look at Mannys opponents as in size current form etc, there are lots of ways to put the brakes on an opponent, Manny beat a lot of guys because he had big matchmaking advantages and timing that Jon Smith could never see, the fans dont care they only see the win not why it happened, when youre as good Manny is you can be matched perfectly and he was.

              Porter will be tougher for Errol to beat than what current Manny would be.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Sustanon View Post
                Still.. Spence is an overrated fighter period
                Beating smaller fighters
                the guy should be in middleweight
                Trolls are out I see. I wonder what they would have called Tommy Hearns, who is 3" at least taller than Spence? Height doesn't automatically equate to the "bigger" boxer.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Tosaken View Post
                  Mikey is quite a bit technically better than Pacquiao. It is Pac's unorthodox style that makes him hard to prepare for.

                  When was the last time Pac fought a southpaw? Probably have to go back 10 years.
                  technically pleasing to the eye doesnt mean it’s more effective technically. it’s pac’s dynamism that enhances his technical skills, which mikey and a lot of robotic fighters like swift needs when faced with a different kind of adversity.

                  southpaw question goes both ways. when has errol fought a legendary southpaw buzzsaw before?

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
                    You dont realize the size difference when Spence wants to be physical, Spence is a lot bigger than Thurman with no injuries layoffs or nearly koed etc etc, he is big, punches straight can fight like a dog or box like a technician, Errol is very rounded and much better than current Thurman.

                    And the other thing is you dont look at Mannys opponents as in size current form etc, there are lots of ways to put the brakes on an opponent, Manny beat a lot of guys because he had big matchmaking advantages and timing that Jon Smith could never see, the fans dont care they only see the win not why it happened, when youre as good Manny is you can be matched perfectly and he was.

                    Porter will be tougher for Errol to beat than what current Manny would be.
                    and spence intentionally didn’t fight physical against the much much smaller much predictable and stationary mikey when he had the chance? lol.

                    imo, spence is the least technical among the top ww’s. he’s just big, with the least defense.

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                    • #50
                      In the end, it's really not up to anybody, not even Manny's own family can change his decision. If Pacquiao was offered by uncle Al an offer he can't refuse to fight Errol Spence, then, it's the fight he's going to take. He's given his price out there, it's 20m, either side of the street can get it for that price.

                      My belief is Haymon will go for it. PBC is already advertising in some of their video content like "All Roads lead back to Manny Pacquiao"

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqxKLoDolqw

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