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  • #71
    Originally posted by Boxknowledge75 View Post
    Lol, I believe I been watching boxing longer than you son. But I am impressed and agree with the lower weight and draining you’re talking about but no one is talking triangle theories here and the names you mentioned above are proven greats. Roach maybe right, Crawford Would be too much against a 40 yr old pac. Easy to compare fighters to Mayweather with pop. They said the same with Judah who is Whitaker with pop. This version of Crawford who hasn’t fought a top 5 WW would have trouble against a prime pac who would have too much experience, too much volume punching, speed and stamina. I could see Crawford being confused. Mayweather beat pac but not the way Márquez beat pac who was still in his prime. Márquez only fighter who gave pac trouble IN HIS PRIME.
    Take into consideration that Mayweather was also far removed from his prime. The same Marquez who later knocked Pac silly and who Pac has always struggled with was severely outclassed by Mayweather.

    Pac knows how to fight one way and that is firefights---he darts in and out with flurries. This why Alex Ariza was so crucial to his career because he improve his stamina to sustain that style. After Ariza, his punch output fell. Some say it's his age, but that is just one factor, but Ariza's departure was too coincidental to him lower his output, to blame his age.

    He gets impatient with counterpunchers and makes serious errors. Watch the first Morales fight where he lost to Morales. Also, Notice when Thurman came off his ego and started boxing and counterpunching in the mid rounds Pac was lost.

    Bradley "won" the first fight after he injured his ankle because it slowed him down and turned him into a counterpuncher, after which Manny was lost. Freddy said it himself he likes sluggers/come forward fighters. Do you know why? Because they are easy to pull into firefights.

    A prime Mayweather would be way too much for Pac. The thing is Crawford can adapt and has the ring IQ, and I think that is where the comparison is. Judah is a dumb fighter. Whitaker had a boxing IQ, Judah had only athleticism. Another dumb fighter is Broner.

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    • #72
      Spence needs to beat thurman to prove he really is best WW first.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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        Which pretty much proves my point. They call out the top WW then proceed to fight Brandon Rios or Mathysse or Broner and now I hear Danny Garcia is being floated to fight pac.
        I was agreeing with you. 100%. I hadn’t heard about Danny Garcia, but it’s not a surprise.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
          Spence needs to beat thurman to prove he really is best WW first.
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          Didn’t Thurman just lose?

          Thurman should do what PAC did after he got KO’d by Marquez - PAC fought Brandon Rios so Thurman should fight Jeff Horn.
          That way we can all agree that it’s the path to greatness, after all look at PAC

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
            Errol is not coming off major surgery and two years out with a poor performance comeback fight, to be honest Porter will be tougher for Errol to beat than Manny will be, youre a fan boy you can only see Manny because you dont know how to see anything else.

            Deep down I hope Manny doesnt fight Spence or TC because I dont want to see him leave the sport in a beatdown or bad KO loss.
            Didn’t I tell ya already?!

            NO MORE EXCUSES PAL!

            NONSTOP EXCUSES STRIKES AGAIN!!


            PAC the messiah of boxing!
            Top 5 ATG

            Spence who?
            Spence can’t even garner up 400K ppv buys boy he got garbage!

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            • #76
              I think these articles get clicks and that is a success for a writer. I think if you write an article everyone can generally agree on no one will remember your name so I appreciate the slight controversy.

              That being said, I feel like if you participate in a sport you should do so to be the best. If you’re already recognized as one of the best you either should bow out on top, or keep fighting greats to prove you’re greater.

              I don’t want manny to fight Spence or Crawford, but i damn sure don’t want him to fight Berto or Vargas either. You fight to be the best and there’s not many avenues to head in from here

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Twako View Post
                and spence intentionally didn’t fight physical against the much much smaller much predictable and stationary mikey when he had the chance? lol.

                imo, spence is the least technical among the top ww’s. he’s just big, with the least defense.


                Quite a few said that if it wasn't for Spence's size, Mikey would box his ears off. He proved that part of his game was better than Mikey's, who was top 10 pfp, and the best Robert Garcia has ever trained. Shut. Out.
                Spence is definitely at the top or very near of any welter as far as technical skills goes. You have GOT to be kidding, or know very little about boxing.wtf Probably just another worthless troll.

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